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« on: November 24, 2018, 09:37:37 PM »
« edited: December 08, 2019, 09:20:49 AM by look, fat »

Senate:
Mark Warner - Dodd-Frank rollback, Haspel vote
Jeanne Shaheen - See: Warner, Mark. The NHGOP really doesn't have a bench besides Sununu, and even then he'll get tarred and feathered once people realize he's governed like a conservative.
Gary Peters - Dodd-Frank rollback, confirming Ajit Pai

The Big Ones:
Tim Ryan - I was against him when he started railing on about how he's open to corporate tax cuts. I'm glad to see it's fashionable now.
Seth Moulton - Blue Dog and media whore. Also have a raging personal grudge against him for trying to mess with my district.
Dan Lipinski - Need I say more?
Annie Kuster - If Carol can win 4 terms as an unapologetic progressive, then I don't see why Kuster can't either.
Tulsi Gabbard - Assadism, generally being a false prophet

Blue Dogs/Corporatists in D Districts:
Vicente Gonzalez
Filemon Vela
Darren Soto
Jim Costa
Rick Larsen
Lou Correa
Brad Schneider

Pelosi Blue Dogs:
Ed Case
Donna Shalala
Al Lawson
Rick Larsen

Anti-Pelosi:
Kathleen Rice
Kurt Schrader
Tom Suozzi (also a raging moderate hero)
Bill Foster
Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)
Linda Sanchez

Traitors (GOP supporters):
Henry Cuellar - (John Carter)
Stephen Lynch - (Charlie Baker)
David Scott - (Johnny Isakson)
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2018, 10:26:40 PM »

Senate:


Kurt Schrader

Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)


Lol imagine primarying someone in a district trump won or was tied in 2016

My issue with Schrader is his moderate heroism/anti-Pelosi stunts. His is a bit more nebulous but is decently Democratic down-ballot. Van Drew has always voted like a Republican.

At least know what you're talking about before you start acting condescending.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2018, 10:41:08 PM »
« Edited: November 24, 2018, 10:44:48 PM by Mayor Steve Pearce »

Senate:


Kurt Schrader

Jeff Van Drew (We can do better here as well)


Lol imagine primarying someone in a district trump won or was tied in 2016

My issue with Schrader is his moderate heroism/anti-Pelosi stunts. His is a bit more nebulous but is decently Democratic down-ballot. Van Drew has always voted like a Republican.

At least know what you're talking about before you start acting condescending.
Go ahead primary van drew to lose the seat. That seat loves incumbents
Of course Schrader has to be a moderate in a even PVI seat trending r

While I was typing up my post, I found out your entire premise about Schrader's district is wrong. Not only did it vote for Clinton by 4, it actually trended towards her by 1%.

Putting you treating Van Drew like he's in a heavily GOP district aside, your entire argument about not primarying Schrader falls apart easily. For someone so condescending, you certainly don't check your facts.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2018, 11:15:58 PM »

Some of the challenges have been concerning. IIRC Adem Bunkadekko (Clarke's primary challenger) was pro-charter schools. I can't really speak to Engel or Maloney because I wasn't following them, but beware of the "new leadership" types masquerading from the right.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 11:21:57 PM »

Very sad that so many people here want to primary King Ed, one of the best representatives Hawai'i's ever had. ʻO wau me Ed!

However, here are plenty of representatives who I wouldn't mind seeing go, although I don't have much hope for any of them getting a serious challenge:

Ro Khanna (CA-17)
Alcee Hastings (FL-20)
Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02)
Dan Lipinski (IL-03)
Seth Moulton (MA-06)
Ilhan Omar (MN-05)
Tim Ryan (OH-13)
Sheila Jackson Lee (TX-18)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)

Yeah leave Kokua Ed alone, unless we're talking Doug Chin.

Amazingly enough, looking at it from an outsider's perspective, Ed may very well have been their second-best choice. The rest were those types of politicians who would be Republicans if the HIGOP was a functioning party (Kim, Fukumoto) or virulently anti-gay (Chin). Republicans, in my opinion, have infiltrated the HIDP to some degree.

I'll also add Charlie Crist to my list after the vote for the GOP resolution to call ICE on undocumented immigrants who buy guns. I'd also like to second Costa, who voted for this despite being in a D+9 (what the actual Christ) district.

AoC do your damn thing
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2019, 04:33:00 PM »


He openly supported LGBT conversion therapy in 1995 and gave a BS apology about it when it came out in the primary.

He's not sorry that he dehumanized people. He's sorry that he got flack for it in the primary. Thank God Case won.
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 01:56:56 AM »

Add Vargas, Wasserman Schultz, and Engel to the list for attacking a fellow Democrat from the right.

Vargas and Engel are pipe dreams, but I think DWS has a chance at losing to a challenger that isn't a nutjob. She seems pretty swampy to me.
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2019, 02:06:34 AM »

He openly supported LGBT conversion therapy in 1995 and gave a BS apology about it when it came out in the primary.

He's not sorry that he dehumanized people. He's sorry that he got flack for it in the primary. Thank God Case won.

In what capacity did he support conversion therapy? I can't seem to find what his role was in 1995; he joined the HNL prosecutor's office in 1998. He was very pro-LGBT+ rights as AG. I guess for me his actual policy impact outweighs his earlier personal foibles, but I also was unaware of that past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4I-xbq6iyc

I was a bit mistaken, and while he didn't personally come out on the record for conversion therapy, his church does support it. However, he did make virulently anti-gay speeches as a preacher.

While his record as AG was pro-LGBT, his fake apology and continued association with said church leads me to believe he's pro-LGBT for political reasons. I don't believe for a second he was sincere (if you say I'm sorry if" or "I'm sorry, but" like he did, you're bulls***ting and you know you're bulls****ting).
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« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2019, 12:55:52 AM »

New Representatives: Indie Edition:

Senate:

* Mark Warner - Dodd-Frank rollback, Haspel vote. Would not support in general either.
* Jeanne Shaheen - See: Warner, Mark. The NHGOP really doesn't have a bench besides Sununu. I could see someone like Mindi Messmer or even CSP winning, but this is a pipe dream.
* Gary Peters - Dodd-Frank rollback, confirming Ajit Pai
* Ben Ray Lujan - Omar grifting. Would not support in general.
* Kirsten Gillibrand - Part of the campaign to parachute a carpetbagger into my district, abandoning the left. Would not support in general.

House:

The Big Ones:

* Tim Ryan - I was against him when he started railing on about how he's open to corporate tax cuts. I'm glad to see it's fashionable now.
* Seth Moulton - Blue Dog and media whore. Also have a raging personal grudge against him for trying to mess with my district.
* Dan Lipinski - Need I say more?
* Tulsi Gabbard - Assadism, generally being a false prophet
* Kim Jong Bustos - The one who wants to protect them all and play Politburo

Blue Dogs/Corporatists in D Districts:
Vicente Gonzalez - Corporatist
Filemon Vela - Corporatist
Darren Soto - No Labels shill
Jim Costa - Absolute trash, backed Trump on immigration
Rick Larsen - I still remember his condescension re: Bernie
Lou Correa - Not great
Brad Schneider - District's trended enough to the left, plus not a fan of his fopo
Annie Kuster - If Carol can win 4 terms as an unapologetic progressive, then I don't see why Kuster can't in a more economically liberal district. Pappas also won in commanding fashion despite being significantly more progressive.

Pelosi Blue Dogs:
Ed Case (the second-best candidate in the field last year, but still trash)
Donna Shalala (also seems pretty weak)
Lori Trahan (only a conservative)
Al Lawson (Lipinski-tier trash), WNSIG

Anti-Pelosi:
Kathleen Rice (No Labels shilling, both-sidesing)
Kurt Schrader (No Labels shilling)
Tom Suozzi (Raging moderate hero, both sides-ing)
Bill Foster (idr why I put him here)
Jeff Van Drew (Sure, it's conservative, but we can do better here as well)

Traitors (GOP supporters):
Henry Cuellar - (John Carter) - also literally more conservative than Manchin
Stephen Lynch - (Charlie Baker)
David Scott - (Johnny Isakson)
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« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2019, 10:44:13 PM »

Ilhan Omar
AOC
Maxine Waters
Alcee Hastings
Pramila Jayapal
Chris Pappas
Rashida Tlaib
Ayanna Pressley
Jan Schawkowsky

It's very amusing to see a who's who of the most liberal members of the House juxtaposed with a random Congressman (who thankfully happens to be mine). While he's certainly not Bernie, he's at least at the same ideological level as Shea-Porter. I was scared for a moment since he joined the New Dems but he's been hitting all the right notes to keep everyone happy
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