KY-PPP (D): Alison Lundergan Grimes (D) ahead of Sen. Mitch McConnell (R)

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Interesting who paid for it. Would be nice to see the internals. Some of the question-wording is a little sketchy too.

Progressive Campaign Change Committee and Democracy for America.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

This IS PPP and its very early on, PPP always overestimates democrats in polls when its not at least a half year away. I'm actually not surprised by this, not that this won't be a close race, it certainly will, but to think Grimes will win is a little too confident... so far.

Don't say the first part again here. You sound almost verbatim like one of our more echo chamberesque Republicans (to put it nicely), and if you don't want to seem like a hack, ignoring inconvenient truths isn't a good idea.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

This IS PPP and its very early on, PPP always overestimates democrats in polls when its not at least a half year away.

This is a bad talking point that needs to stop. I was hoping only Oldies bought into this stuff.

There are a lot of republican polls like this too (Rasmussen) that overstate the republicans chances of winning elections, this isn't a "talking point", this is stating what I think is the truth with PPP as they have a history of overstating democrats. I'm basically saying I have less trust in certain polls because they have a bias that they've proven over the years, Quinnipac in my opinion is a very trustworthy poll as they've been accurate much more often that I've examined.

Of course. Famous Democrats Mitt Romney and Todd Akin were underestimated by PPP, both losing by greater margins than thought. How could I forget?

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Early on.... I expect this kind of thing for almost every pollster. PPP is almost always accurate when the primary is done. That being said any pollster right now has a little bit of bias and I've noticed that in early races they clearly put the spotlight on how good democrats could do and how bad republicans can do. You can see it very clearly in their posts on their website. There polls are trustworthy enough, but I'm having doubts that it won't stay this way for all of next year. It certainly could, maybe PPP will give me a new trust to them, but for now they have a slight bias in my mind. I'm NOT attacking them in any way, these is not "republican denial tactics", this is my opinion, and I'm sorry some of you can't accept it. I do not need any more arguing and bickering.

That's the problem. Phil and Supersonic don't think this poll matters much because McConnell is a great campaigner, has an incredible warchest, and has enough to nuke Bevin and Grimes. Based in fact. Hell, I'm praying she survives the onslaught. I cited that PPP actually overestimated Republicans. Once again, based in fact. You just say PPP overestimates Democrats and write it off as a junk poll although it's a very well regarded company.

It's not a matter of opinion. It's an outright misconception that's as completely based in denial as Bandit thinking it's an easy race for her.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Well you're surely acting like it. It's a matter of withstanding the onslaught from a very smart, cunning politician who isn't afraid to go below the belt.

[Anti Democrat Democrat Club]

Maxwell, you speak to Oldie, it's impossible to change his mind. You know, the democrats are still racist, everybody on this forum is socialist, and PPP is just a junk poll, yeah it's true we have to unskew the polls haha, we should trust Karl rove, who is republican, so he's right all the time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TwuR0jCavk

It's not Oldies. It's a different poster who I also felt is in danger of becoming a chamberdweller like Oldies.