Minnesota- Why can't the GOP get the job done there?

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

Utah would be a Safe Democratic state if all the white socially conservative Mormons were actually liberal whites, blacks, and Hispanics from Manhattan.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

Utah would be a Safe Democratic state if all the white socially conservative Mormons were actually liberal whites, blacks, and Hispanics from Manhattan.

A Republican would be elected President of the United States in 2016 if he had Ted Cruz's appearance, life story, and biography and Chris Christie's views, record/experience, and style.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

Utah would be a Safe Democratic state if all the white socially conservative Mormons were actually liberal whites, blacks, and Hispanics from Manhattan.

A Republican would be elected President of the United States in 2016 if he had Ted Cruz's appearance, life story, and biography and Chris Christie's views, record/experience, and style.

Al Gore would be President of the United States if Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris didn't prevent 54,000 Florida citizens, 54% of whom were African American, from voting because their names sounded similar to those of about 2,000 felons, if the butterfly ballot was not used in heavily Democratic precincts where the majority of voters were blind old Jews, and if faulty voting machines did not report an unusually high number of over votes in heavily Democratic poor inner city precincts.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

Utah would be a Safe Democratic state if all the white socially conservative Mormons were actually liberal whites, blacks, and Hispanics from Manhattan.

A Republican would be elected President of the United States in 2016 if he had Ted Cruz's appearance, life story, and biography and Chris Christie's views, record/experience, and style.

Al Gore would be President of the United States if Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris didn't prevent 54,000 Florida citizens, 54% of whom were African American, from voting because their names sounded similar to those of about 2,000 felons, if the butterfly ballot was not used in heavily Democratic precincts where the majority of voters were blind old Jews, and if faulty voting machines did not report an unusually high number of over votes in heavily Democratic poor inner city precincts.

Again I fail to see the point of your post because it in no way relates to what I proposed. If only it were the same thing. The butterfly ballot was hysterical.

I'm just exposing both the uselessness and the unlikeliness of the particular hypothetical you made.

[PolitiJunkie]

I live in Duluth and I definitely concur with Sol. Unions are very strong in Minnesota, and the GOP has a difficulty with appeasing unions (for good reasons, in my opinion ). You'd need to be a pretty populist conservative to win here, or in this select area at least.

This gives me a good idea for a thread. Bush would've won Minnesota both times if he was more pro-union and a little less free trade.

Romney would've won DC if he was a liberal Democrat.

McCain/Palin would have won all 538 EVs if John McCain was actually Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin was actually Bill Clinton, Barack Obama was actually Hitler, and Joe Biden was actually Stalin.

Utah would be a Safe Democratic state if all the white socially conservative Mormons were actually liberal whites, blacks, and Hispanics from Manhattan.

A Republican would be elected President of the United States in 2016 if he had Ted Cruz's appearance, life story, and biography and Chris Christie's views, record/experience, and style.

Al Gore would be President of the United States if Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris didn't prevent 54,000 Florida citizens, 54% of whom were African American, from voting because their names sounded similar to those of about 2,000 felons, if the butterfly ballot was not used in heavily Democratic precincts where the majority of voters were blind old Jews, and if faulty voting machines did not report an unusually high number of over votes in heavily Democratic poor inner city precincts.

Again I fail to see the point of your post because it in no way relates to what I proposed. If only it were the same thing. The butterfly ballot was hysterical.

I'm just exposing both the uselessness and the unlikeliness of the particular hypothetical you made.

It would be useless if Bush was more pro-union and won Minnesota?

No, that's the "unlikeliness" part that I referenced. The "uselessness" part came from the fact that your hypothetical is probably wrong (if he wasn't winning WI, PA, and even IA in 2000, no way he was winning MN), but also the fact that you were making a tiny, inconsequential what-if about an election 13 years ago.

[PolitiJunkie]

Minnesota drives me crazy. I actually had it going for Romney along with Michigan, Florida, and Colorado.

Why in the world did you think there was a more-likely-than-not chance of Minnesota going for Romney? I get that it wasn't impossible, but when you actually had to call each state, you genuinely believed Minnesota would go Romney? I got every state right except Florida.

[PolitiJunkie]

Minnesota drives me crazy. I actually had it going for Romney along with Michigan, Florida, and Colorado.

Why in the world did you think there was a more-likely-than-not chance of Minnesota going for Romney? I get that it wasn't impossible, but when you actually had to call each state, you genuinely believed Minnesota would go Romney? I got every state right except Florida.

The week before the election should be spent focusing on Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and possibly Pennsylvania. However, Democrats sent Bill Clinton their top rock star to a state they haven't lost since 1972 as if they were worried. Actually I had the state at 50/50. The states I was certain for Romney were MO, IN, NH, CO, and actually my upset was MI. I had FL at 49-49, NC at 50-50, and MN at 50-50.

I guess you just suck at predictions then, probably because you involve too much wishful thinking.

[PolitiJunkie]

Minnesota drives me crazy. I actually had it going for Romney along with Michigan, Florida, and Colorado.

Why in the world did you think there was a more-likely-than-not chance of Minnesota going for Romney? I get that it wasn't impossible, but when you actually had to call each state, you genuinely believed Minnesota would go Romney? I got every state right except Florida.

The week before the election should be spent focusing on Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and possibly Pennsylvania. However, Democrats sent Bill Clinton their top rock star to a state they haven't lost since 1972 as if they were worried. Actually I had the state at 50/50. The states I was certain for Romney were MO, IN, NH, CO, and actually my upset was MI. I had FL at 49-49, NC at 50-50, and MN at 50-50.

I guess you just suck at predictions then, probably because you involve too much wishful thinking.

I do worse every time. In 2004 I predicted every state correctly and a 51-49 Bush victory.

What about Senate races? I'm the opposite as you; your predictions are influenced by wishful thinking whereas I slightly underestimate my party. I was 32/33 in 2012, incorrectly predicting that the Republican would win in North Dakota. And I predicted a 3-point Obama victory rather than a 4-point one, and I was wrong about Florida.