Democrats: Do you support forcibly removing Manchin from the democratic caucus?

[Sopranos Republican]

No, just primary him in 2018.

As much as I may dislike some of Manchin's positions, I'd still much rather have him holding a senate seat then another alt-right WV Republican, which is exactly what will happen if he loses a primary. Better to have someone who is right half of the time than someone who is wrong all of the time. He's pretty much the best we're going to get from a state like West Virginia these days. Quite frankly people like Manchin help the Democrats' brand in Appalachia, and given the region's crippling poverty it is a true testament to how damaging the elitist image that the party has been successfully painted with by the right in recent times, that states with so many problems economically would vote for the party of the 1%

[Sopranos Republican]

No, just primary him in 2018.

As much as I may dislike some of Manchin's positions, I'd still much rather have him holding a senate seat then another alt-right WV Republican, which is exactly what will happen if he loses a primary. Better to have someone who is right half of the time than someone who is wrong all of the time. He's pretty much the best we're going to get from a state like West Virginia these days. Quite frankly people like Manchin help the Democrats' brand in Appalachia, and given the region's crippling poverty it is a true testament to how damaging the elitist image that the party has been successfully painted with by the right in recent times, that states with so many problems economically would vote for the party of the 1%

They don't see it as voting for the party of the 1%, they see it as voting for the party who respects the coal industry.

That was what I was getting at, sherlock. The reason for this is because of the neglect and disdain shown by many in the DNC for these areas of the country. The reason for this is because the national party has done a terrible job recently, exposing the Republicans of being exactly what they are at their core, a rich man's party.  You cannot claim to represent the interests of all Americans if you insist on running on the same platform in West Virginia, as you do in places like California. This is why it is important to have people like Manchin in the party who represent the political realities of their state. And before anyone suggests that I'm allowing for homophobia or racism, let me be clear that I am simply saying that allowing people with liberal views for their state, even if they are a bit more conservative than certain other members of the party, is essential to have a party that can function and win elections in all 50 states. Being pro-life or pro-gun rights (the latter being something that I support) should not be what defines who is a real Democrat and who isn't. We should be basing this on who represents the interests of working class Americans, which is exactly why Hillary Clinton failed so abysmally.