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« Reply #475 on: August 10, 2022, 10:51:00 AM »

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« Reply #476 on: August 10, 2022, 10:51:15 AM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

So why didn't he turn over these boxes of classified information in the 19 months that have passed since he left office?
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« Reply #477 on: August 10, 2022, 10:53:05 AM »





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« Reply #478 on: August 10, 2022, 10:56:14 AM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

So why didn't he turn over these boxes of classified information in the 19 months that have passed since he left office?

What boxes are you talking about?  Is there any indication that Trump has been asked to return anything beyond what he had already surrendered? 
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« Reply #479 on: August 10, 2022, 11:00:45 AM »

Will riled up MAGAists storm the FBI headquarters soon?  Huh
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« Reply #480 on: August 10, 2022, 11:14:25 AM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.
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« Reply #481 on: August 10, 2022, 11:14:53 AM »



Lots of informative details in the linked article, which claims to be sourced from "two senior government officials".
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« Reply #482 on: August 10, 2022, 11:40:48 AM »







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« Reply #483 on: August 10, 2022, 11:44:03 AM »

Anything that goes into unprecedented territory is going to be politicized. A former President has never been raided by the FBI but at the same time no former President has had as much dirt on him as Trump.

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« Reply #484 on: August 10, 2022, 11:45:07 AM »

Where was all this outrage from the right when Hillary was being investigated by the REPUBLICAN led FBI in 2016??

The Public knew what she was being investigated for. If this turns out to be espionage I will take back what I said in this thread btw but we need to know the info

Got it. So if it's related to espionage or j6, you'll take it all back. But if it's some other violation of American law, then this is overkill in your mind. Indisputable logic.
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« Reply #485 on: August 10, 2022, 11:50:46 AM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   
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« Reply #486 on: August 10, 2022, 12:01:00 PM »

Lots of things are classified but unless this was world changing classified material they recovered, they over played their hand with a raid.  Time will tell.  I'll wait.
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« Reply #487 on: August 10, 2022, 12:12:19 PM »

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FBI agents, as well as U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI Director Chris Wray, are experiencing an uptick in death threats in the wake of the raid at former President Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago in Florida, according to sources speaking with Fox News.

Authorities monitoring social media posts are spotting a significant increase in death threats aimed towards agents, Wray and Garland. These threats are reported to continue at a steady pace online.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-agents-garland-wray-see-increased-death-threats-trump-mar-a-lago-raid-sources
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« Reply #488 on: August 10, 2022, 12:21:29 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.
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« Reply #489 on: August 10, 2022, 12:29:29 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something. 
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« Reply #490 on: August 10, 2022, 12:30:25 PM »

Plot twist: Trump tipped the FBI off on a minor crime to make himself the victim and take the headlines away from Dark Brandon.
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« Reply #491 on: August 10, 2022, 12:32:07 PM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   
Why can't Trump just tell us?
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« Reply #492 on: August 10, 2022, 12:35:43 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something. 

If this had occurred, the right would be screaming that Garland was making a political show by announcing the raid.
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« Reply #493 on: August 10, 2022, 12:39:59 PM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   
Why can't Trump just tell us?

Tell us what?  That the FBI is on a fishing expedition and showed up to Mar-a-Lago to collect every piece of paper they could get their hands on?  He's already said that
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« Reply #494 on: August 10, 2022, 12:40:44 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something. 

If this had occurred, the right would be screaming that Garland was making a political show by announcing the raid.
I don't think so.  We'd be talking about Garland's stated reasons for why the raid needed to be conducted.
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« Reply #495 on: August 10, 2022, 12:46:33 PM »
« Edited: August 10, 2022, 12:50:47 PM by LBJer »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.    

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something.  

And why exactly?  What about equal treatment under the law?  The fact that a bunch of pathetic Republicans are whining about this doesn't mean Garland is obligated to give them an explanation.  If he wouldn't be explaining something like this if it was done to anyone else, there's no particular reason why he should do so in the case of Donald Trump.
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« Reply #496 on: August 10, 2022, 12:46:58 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something. 

Not staying silent absent public safety concerns violates DOJ policy.

https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-1-7000-media-relations

So it's going to take the slings and arrows. My guess however is that Garland is pretty confident that an indictment for something is in the offing. Otherwise, this is grist for Trump world's  mill.



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« Reply #497 on: August 10, 2022, 12:48:06 PM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   
Why can't Trump just tell us?

Tell us what?  That the FBI is on a fishing expedition and showed up to Mar-a-Lago to collect every piece of paper they could get their hands on?  He's already said that
He has a copy of the warrant and can release it.
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« Reply #498 on: August 10, 2022, 12:49:52 PM »

If Trump was mishandling classified information, then yes, the FBI should go retrieve that information.

If Trump was in possession of classified information, there's no reason that couldn't have been resolved cooperatively (or at most with a subpoena.)  Trump voluntarily surrended 15 boxes of documents to the National Archives back in January. 

Sure. No one knows yet what the warrant was for, but I highly doubt the FBI raids a former president's house if there was not something serious to it. I do not believe the conspiracies that somehow Biden is pushing the FBI to take out Trump before the next election. Biden probably wants to run against Trump again.

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   
Why can't Trump just tell us?

Tell us what?  That the FBI is on a fishing expedition and showed up to Mar-a-Lago to collect every piece of paper they could get their hands on?  He's already said that
He has a copy of the warrant and can release it.
As multiple posters have already said, it's unlikely the warrant contains any information as to why the search was conducted.
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« Reply #499 on: August 10, 2022, 12:53:56 PM »

This is why we need immediate oversight and answers from the Justice Department on why the raid was conducted.  The DOJ seems to be downplaying the raid, which is not a very smart political calculation.   

Well they're not supposed to be political.

Merrick Garland is a political appointee.  Any raid/investigation into a former president is going to attract major political attention, so he should have been out in front of this with a major press conference the day after the raid was conducted.  Staying silent makes it seem like they're hiding something. 

He's a political appointee who is supposed to act apolitically the moment he is confirmed. Whether it makes seem to you they are hiding something is irrelevant. That's standard DOJ procedure. Say nothing, confirm nothing, until you're indicting.
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