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« Reply #2200 on: May 03, 2023, 09:52:16 AM »


The article says Trump will probably appeal everything. I wonder how long that will delay matters. SCOTUS won't be granting cert on this, nor will it go en banc at the appellate level. This legal issue is pretty cut and dried now. In reading the story, I could not help wondering why any lawyer want to work for Trump ever. Maybe the answer is that they are as screwed up as Trump himself. I am glad that I am not Mark Meadows.
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« Reply #2201 on: May 03, 2023, 09:43:51 PM »

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An Ex-FBI agent who feds say urged Jan. 6 rioters to kill police, worked terrorism task force.

An ex-FBI official who allegedly urged rioters to "kill" officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was previously the supervisory special agent in charge of Homegrown Violent Extremism for the FBI New York Field Office's Joint Terrorism Task Force, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News.

Jared Wise was arrested in Oregon this week ...


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ex-fbi-agent-feds-say-urged-jan-6-rioters-kill-police-worked-terrorism-rcna82775


How does someone like this go from a special agent in charge of, and working against "homegrown violent extremism" in our nation, to the urging for murder of police officers by screaming “Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!” to trump supporting cultists, during the Jan 6th Insurrection?

I just don't see how this person passed the necessary (psychological) tests, to be in such a special department of the agency. There should have been something there (even in the past) that I would think would have been "detected."
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« Reply #2202 on: May 04, 2023, 12:53:00 AM »

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An Ex-FBI agent who feds say urged Jan. 6 rioters to kill police, worked terrorism task force.

An ex-FBI official who allegedly urged rioters to "kill" officers during the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was previously the supervisory special agent in charge of Homegrown Violent Extremism for the FBI New York Field Office's Joint Terrorism Task Force, a senior law enforcement official told NBC News.

Jared Wise was arrested in Oregon this week ...


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ex-fbi-agent-feds-say-urged-jan-6-rioters-kill-police-worked-terrorism-rcna82775


How does someone like this go from a special agent in charge of, and working against "homegrown violent extremism" in our nation, to the urging for murder of police officers by screaming “Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!” to trump supporting cultists, during the Jan 6th Insurrection?

I just don't see how this person passed the necessary (psychological) tests, to be in such a special department of the agency. There should have been something there (even in the past) that I would think would have been "detected."

Encouraging radicalized people to commit acts of violence is kind of the FBI's job.
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« Reply #2203 on: May 04, 2023, 10:45:09 AM »

Four Proud Boys members found guilty of seditious conspiracy

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Four members of the far-right Proud Boys have been found guilty of seditious conspiracy by a jury in Washington, DC, for their roles to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power from then-President Donald Trump to Joe Biden after the 2020 election.

Defendants Enrique Tarrio – the Proud Boys longtime chairman – Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Zachary Rehl and Dominic Pezzola faced a range of charges, including three separate conspiracy charges, obstructing the Electoral College vote and tampering with evidence. 

The guilty verdict marks the third time that prosecutors have secured convictions for seditious conspiracy in the Justice Department’s historic prosecution of those who breached the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.

The jury was unable to reach a verdict on the seditious conspiracy charge against Pezzola. Unlike the other defendants in this trial, Pezzola is not alleged to have a leadership position in the organization and was inactive in Proud Boys group chats.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/04/politics/proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-verdict/index.html
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« Reply #2204 on: May 04, 2023, 07:44:13 PM »

They need to indict Trump he acts like everyone else is guilty except him, the indictment in NY didn't do anything to deter him
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« Reply #2205 on: May 04, 2023, 07:47:43 PM »

The problem is that Trump is the big problem he and his supporters think he somehow gonna save the day and what did he do pass a massive tax cuts for the wealthy, he did pass out stimulus but Rs are going after Welfare while giving 47 B for Ukraine .
He ran up the largest deficits in part because of those stimulus programs like rental Assistance fell onto Biden but that is over rental assistance and there isn't a single Section 8 vouchers in a major city unless you live in Iowa
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« Reply #2206 on: May 05, 2023, 04:27:33 PM »

At least eight Trump electors have accepted immunity in Georgia investigation
In a new filing, the lawyer for the eight electors accused prosecutors of knowingly making false accusations in an effort to have her removed from the case.

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At least eight of the 16 Georgia Republicans who convened in December 2020 to declare Donald Trump the winner of the presidential contest despite his loss in the state have accepted immunity deals from Atlanta-area prosecutors investigating alleged election interference, according to a lawyer for the electors.

Prosecutors with the office of Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) told the eight that they will not be charged with crimes if they testify truthfully in her sprawling investigation into efforts by Trump, his campaign and his allies to overturn Joe Biden’s victory in Georgia, according to a brief filed Friday in Fulton County Superior Court by defense attorney Kimberly Bourroughs Debrow.

Willis has said that the meeting of Trump’s electors on Dec. 14, 2020, despite Republican Gov. Brian Kemp’s certification of Biden’s win, is a key target of her investigation, along with Trump’s phone calls to multiple state officials and his campaign’s potential involvement in an unauthorized breach of election equipment in rural Coffee County, Ga.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/05/fulton-county-georgia-trump-investigation-electors-immunity/
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« Reply #2207 on: May 19, 2023, 09:00:37 AM »

Meanwhile in Atlanta...




And the time frame for potential indictments comes into clearer focus:


 
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« Reply #2208 on: May 19, 2023, 10:06:56 AM »

I am a bit puzzled why the Fulton County case is taking so long to fish or cut bait. While perhaps the law is complex (that is why God invented Appellate Courts), in my no doubt naivete, it does not seem to me that the undying facts are that factually complex. 
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« Reply #2209 on: May 19, 2023, 10:13:04 AM »
« Edited: May 19, 2023, 10:18:32 AM by Mr.Barkari Sellers »

They aren't gonna do very much to Trump while he is actively running for Prez, he's under secret service protection, , he's gonna lose anyways to Biden, and we want Trump not DeSantis as the nominee anyways voters aren't silly, and gonna vote J6 Trump over Biden like they did with Hillary in a Pandemic Great Recession Environment that's why Rs make their mistakes 2016; was Pre Pandemic 65 M are impoverished I didn't get my 30 K inheritance I want my 30 K in reparations

Conserv say just get a white collar job there are aptitude tests and interviews on those white collar jobs too that's why blue collar jobs have been more ample

Trump is no way winning to RFK Jr or Biden winning Pa, MI and WI
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« Reply #2210 on: May 19, 2023, 05:49:04 PM »

The Jan.6 panel was illegally formed.  Committees are supposed to give both sides equal time when they investigate.  All they did was pile on evidence in the favor of their foregone conclusion.  If anything, the Jan.6 committee should be investigated.  I'm disappointed Republicans haven't done that yet.
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« Reply #2211 on: May 19, 2023, 05:54:37 PM »

That smells like a 🧦 but Republicans had an opportunity to have members on the committee and they chose not to.
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« Reply #2212 on: May 19, 2023, 06:55:54 PM »

That smells like a 🧦 but Republicans had an opportunity to have members on the committee and they chose not to.
They chose five member and Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan. Why didn’t the other 3 stay on the commission?
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« Reply #2213 on: May 19, 2023, 06:57:21 PM »

That smells like a 🧦 but Republicans had an opportunity to have members on the committee and they chose not to.
They chose five member and Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan. Why didn’t the other 3 stay on the commission?

McCarthy pulled them.
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« Reply #2214 on: May 19, 2023, 06:58:12 PM »

That smells like a 🧦 but Republicans had an opportunity to have members on the committee and they chose not to.
They chose five member and Pelosi rejected Banks and Jordan. Why didn’t the other 3 stay on the commission?

McCarthy pulled them.
That has to be one of the dumbest decisions ever.
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« Reply #2215 on: May 20, 2023, 07:36:13 AM »

This is the same McCarthy on the Debt Ceiling that stopped J6 Hearings
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« Reply #2216 on: May 24, 2023, 05:04:13 PM »

The Jan.6 panel was illegally formed.  Committees are supposed to give both sides equal time when they investigate.  All they did was pile on evidence in the favor of their foregone conclusion.  If anything, the Jan.6 committee should be investigated.  I'm disappointed Republicans haven't done that yet.

Yeah, sock or not, you're going on ignore, and nothing of value will be lost.
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« Reply #2217 on: May 24, 2023, 07:40:52 PM »

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Man who rested feet on Pelosi office desk on Jan. 6 sentenced to over four years in prison.

... Richard Barnett, also known as “Bigo,” was convicted by a jury in January of eight charges, including civil disorder. He faced up to 20 years in prison for the top charge of obstructing an official proceeding.

“For better or for worse, you’ve become one of the faces of January 6, and I think you’ve enjoyed that,” District Judge Christopher Cooper said during sentencing.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/24/politics/richard-barnett-pelosi-office-sentencing/index.html


HaHa.
What a fool.

He also testified during the trail that "he was pushed into the Capitol during the riot and was looking for a place to use the restroom inside the building, admiring all the artwork along the way."

So I guess, someone also "pushed him" into Pelosi's seat, while his left leg flew-up into the air and onto her desk, at the exact moment his infamous picture was taken.
Is that what he is trying to say?
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« Reply #2218 on: May 25, 2023, 08:36:56 AM »
« Edited: May 25, 2023, 12:00:13 PM by GeorgiaModerate »

The sentencing hearing for OathKeepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other offenses in connection with Jan. 6, is today.  The government is asking for a 25-year sentence; Rhodes is asking for "time served" (in pre-trial detention, meaning he would be released immediately).

EDIT: Follow https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews for updates.  Rhodes spoke in his own defense and did himself NO favors.  Sentencing will take place shortly.

EDIT 2: Rhodes has been sentenced to 18 years in prison.
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« Reply #2219 on: May 25, 2023, 12:11:55 PM »

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power

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Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Thursday for leading a far-reaching plot to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

The sentence is the first handed down in over a decade for seditious conspiracy.

“A seditious conspiracy, when you take those two concepts and put it together, is among the most serious crimes an American can commit,” said District Judge Amit Mehta. “It is an offense against the government to use force. It is an offense against the people of our country.”

Mehta on Thursday previously ruled that Rhodes’ actions amounted to domestic terrorism.

“He was the one giving the orders,” Mehta said. “He was the one organizing the teams that day. He was the reason they were in fact in Washington DC. Oath Keepers wouldn’t have been there but for Stewart Rhodes, I don’t think anyone contends otherwise. He was the one who gave the order to go, and they went.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/oath-keepers-sentencing-stewart-rhodes-kelly-meggs/index.html
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« Reply #2220 on: May 25, 2023, 01:38:32 PM »

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power

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Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Thursday for leading a far-reaching plot to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

The sentence is the first handed down in over a decade for seditious conspiracy.

“A seditious conspiracy, when you take those two concepts and put it together, is among the most serious crimes an American can commit,” said District Judge Amit Mehta. “It is an offense against the government to use force. It is an offense against the people of our country.”

Mehta on Thursday previously ruled that Rhodes’ actions amounted to domestic terrorism.

“He was the one giving the orders,” Mehta said. “He was the one organizing the teams that day. He was the reason they were in fact in Washington DC. Oath Keepers wouldn’t have been there but for Stewart Rhodes, I don’t think anyone contends otherwise. He was the one who gave the order to go, and they went.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/oath-keepers-sentencing-stewart-rhodes-kelly-meggs/index.html

18 years cause homeboy went on a selfie tour through the capitol which is normally open to the public but he went on the wrong day
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« Reply #2221 on: May 25, 2023, 01:41:09 PM »

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power

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Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Thursday for leading a far-reaching plot to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

The sentence is the first handed down in over a decade for seditious conspiracy.

“A seditious conspiracy, when you take those two concepts and put it together, is among the most serious crimes an American can commit,” said District Judge Amit Mehta. “It is an offense against the government to use force. It is an offense against the people of our country.”

Mehta on Thursday previously ruled that Rhodes’ actions amounted to domestic terrorism.

“He was the one giving the orders,” Mehta said. “He was the one organizing the teams that day. He was the reason they were in fact in Washington DC. Oath Keepers wouldn’t have been there but for Stewart Rhodes, I don’t think anyone contends otherwise. He was the one who gave the order to go, and they went.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/oath-keepers-sentencing-stewart-rhodes-kelly-meggs/index.html

18 years cause homeboy went on a selfie tour through the capitol which is normally open to the public but he went on the wrong day

Correct, because it was just tourist visit? The court system is truly biased against conservatives.
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« Reply #2222 on: May 25, 2023, 01:53:35 PM »

Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes sentenced to 18 years in prison for plot to keep Trump in power

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Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers, was sentenced to 18 years in prison on Thursday for leading a far-reaching plot to keep then-President Donald Trump in power after he lost the 2020 election.

The sentence is the first handed down in over a decade for seditious conspiracy.

“A seditious conspiracy, when you take those two concepts and put it together, is among the most serious crimes an American can commit,” said District Judge Amit Mehta. “It is an offense against the government to use force. It is an offense against the people of our country.”

Mehta on Thursday previously ruled that Rhodes’ actions amounted to domestic terrorism.

“He was the one giving the orders,” Mehta said. “He was the one organizing the teams that day. He was the reason they were in fact in Washington DC. Oath Keepers wouldn’t have been there but for Stewart Rhodes, I don’t think anyone contends otherwise. He was the one who gave the order to go, and they went.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/25/politics/oath-keepers-sentencing-stewart-rhodes-kelly-meggs/index.html

18 years cause homeboy went on a selfie tour through the capitol which is normally open to the public but he went on the wrong day

Most selfies are taken with cameras rather than guns, knives, bats, and other weapons.  You need some new talking points.
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« Reply #2223 on: May 25, 2023, 01:56:46 PM »

18 years cause homeboy went on a selfie tour through the capitol which is normally open to the public but he went on the wrong day

Rhodes didn't go in the Capitol.
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« Reply #2224 on: May 25, 2023, 03:00:02 PM »

That smells like a 🧦 but Republicans had an opportunity to have members on the committee and they chose not to.


We all know that.  The question is how will the voters respond to the talking points?  It remains to be seen until next year. 
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