Blair loses vote on Terror legislation

[afleitch]

I support 60 days. 90 days only with a court extension.

[afleitch]

I support 60 days. 90 days only with a court extension.

Pretty reasonable, but, as you can gather, not my prefered option. You're out of sync with your party's MPs though. I don't know what the mood is among the Tory rank and file

Dave

The Tories are playing a game I'd rather they wouldn't. But the party seems eerily united on this one, including the 'two Davids'

[afleitch]

The current 14 day limit is an insult really.

[afleitch]

Out of interest, how would you have all voted:

On the 90 day limit

On the 28 day limit

90 DAY LIMIT- Abstain
28 DAY LIMIT- For

[afleitch]

Only one Scottish MP dissenter. And it looks like Mohammed Sarwar backed the governemnt on this one.

[afleitch]

Hey, Afleitch:

Katy Clark (Ayrshire North and Arran)
David Hamilton (Midlothian)
Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North & Leith)

Which part about "Scottish" do you not understand?

Sorry, my mistake, I misread.

[afleitch]

Interestingly, according to publicwhip.org.uk there was one Tory rebel also: Sir Peter Tapsell, who I believe is the Uncle of the House.

Is he still alive? Good Lord.

Indeed, first elected in 1959 (and is therefore the only Parliamentary survivor of the 50s, and one of only two I believe from the 60s along with the Father, Alan Williams), he was then defeated in 1964 for re-election. In 1966, he got back into Parliament, and has remained ever since.

Sounds like a possible by-election to me!

[afleitch]

I'm afraid I do not believe the Conservative party was trying to woo Muslim voters at all, even If I disagree with how the vote went. Both the Labour Party, through it's incitement to religious hatred bill and the Lib Dems with thei reactionary nonsense are the two largest parties who try to woo the Muslim vote (the less said about Respect then the better ) If anything, it was the what Pete Bell describes as the 'civil libertarian' side of the Conservative Party that shone through here. They cannot be accused of being an inneffective opposition in that respect. I still believe that 90 days is unworkable, 28 days too short and that a if a 60 day limit which I support had been proposed it may have been passed or suffered only a narrow defeat.

[afleitch]

My old MP was George Robertson. My mum said to me she always paid attention during the early to mid 80's as to what Labour were doing in my area . If they had ever deselected him, she would not have voted for them, as she preffered the MP over the party. Apparently they met when she was donating tinned goods to striking miners families (Two of my great-grandfathers were miners, we've always had a soft spot)