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« Reply #650 on: July 20, 2021, 07:39:29 PM »

Nina Turner is going to lose this, OH-11 doesn’t like Radical Socialists, Nina Turner couldn’t win this primary in 2012 and she can’t win this now
Nina Turner didn't run for anything in 2012 and she isn't a radical socialist.
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« Reply #651 on: July 20, 2021, 08:06:25 PM »

Now the dark money groups are rushing in to try to buy the election for Turner. Really sad to see this.
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« Reply #652 on: July 24, 2021, 09:26:33 PM »

general MacArthur is like one of those Japanese holdouts after WW2, still fighting the 2016 primary.



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« Reply #653 on: July 25, 2021, 02:50:48 PM »

The endorsement list for Brown reads like a "Who's Who" of the worst Democrats in recent memory. Hillary Clinton? Gregory Meeks? Jim Clyburn? New Democrat Coalition? Did they decide who to support at a Purdue Pharma board meeting? LOL.

I'm hoping and guessing this race turns out like the Manhattan DA race. Clinton candidate flops. And it's thanks to the conservadem establishment putting so much effort into plumping up Brown that this has gotten national attention.
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« Reply #654 on: July 26, 2021, 11:32:44 AM »



Oh no no no nooooooo
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« Reply #655 on: July 26, 2021, 11:52:19 AM »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.



The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.
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« Reply #656 on: July 26, 2021, 11:53:01 AM »



Oh no no no nooooooo

pls clap 2, speaker boogaloo
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« Reply #657 on: July 26, 2021, 03:39:54 PM »

Warrensville Heights Councilman Switches Endorsement from Shontel Brown to Nina Turner, Invites Other to Do the Same

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In a video posted to YouTube by Turner's campaign, Stewart said his change of heart was the result of negative campaign ads and the flow of dark money to Northeast Ohio, which he said was prioritizing corporate interests over the people.



"We need someone who is going to stick with the issues," Stewart said, "and that person is Nina Turner."

Stewart is from Shontel Brown's home community of Warrensville Heights — also the political birthplace of Marcia Fudge — and he encouraged other elected leaders there and elsewhere to consider changing their endorsement.

"You have to have a conviction," he said. "You have to have a concern for the people."


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« Reply #658 on: July 26, 2021, 07:37:50 PM »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.



The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.

The ad came across as cheap.
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« Reply #659 on: July 26, 2021, 07:44:06 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2021, 08:20:20 PM by The DNC Hates the Left More Than Transphobes »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.



The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.

The only difference is that the groups supporting Brown (namely DMFI's mailers) are flooding the district with blatant lies.
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« Reply #660 on: July 26, 2021, 09:18:33 PM »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.


The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.

The only difference is that the groups supporting Brown (namely DMFI's mailers) are flooding the district with blatant lies.
Many of the groups supporting Turner have also been flooding the district with blatant lies
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« Reply #661 on: July 26, 2021, 09:36:47 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2021, 09:40:16 PM by The DNC Hates the Left More Than Transphobes »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.


The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.

The only difference is that the groups supporting Brown (namely DMFI's mailers) are flooding the district with blatant lies.
Many of the groups supporting Turner have also been flooding the district with blatant lies


So do you have a citation for any of Turner's outside groups lying or are you just resorting to whataboutery because you know DMFI lied in their mailers?
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« Reply #662 on: July 26, 2021, 09:39:59 PM »

It really was Turner that nationalized this race by bringing in outside help from the start and I think the recent barrage of attacks against Brown shows that this race is not as safe for Turner as previously thought. They even brought out borderline racist attacks.


The whole "girrllll" line was completely unnecessary.

The only difference is that the groups supporting Brown (namely DMFI's mailers) are flooding the district with blatant lies.
Many of the groups supporting Turner have also been flooding the district with blatant lies


So do you have a citation for any of Turner's mailers or are you just resorting to whataboutery because you know DMFI lied in their mailers?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215634162
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« Reply #663 on: July 26, 2021, 09:52:53 PM »

The major ads that the black clergy members you were talking about invoked was the attack ad about Shontel Brown's contract votes. Which she failed to recuse herself from despite promising to do so when she was elected.
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« Reply #664 on: July 26, 2021, 10:14:32 PM »

This ratched af special election is such a gift to the OH GOP
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« Reply #665 on: July 26, 2021, 10:49:51 PM »

I've had "SHONTEL BROWN? GURRRRRRRRL!" stuck in my head all day.
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« Reply #666 on: July 26, 2021, 11:07:03 PM »

I've had "SHONTEL BROWN? GURRRRRRRRL!" stuck in my head all day.

I laughed uproariously when listening to the ad.
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« Reply #667 on: July 27, 2021, 05:32:46 AM »

Also I don't see how the whole 'they're attacking a black woman!!!!' attack works when her opponent is... also a black woman
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« Reply #668 on: July 27, 2021, 01:24:28 PM »



Honestly, how hard would it have been for Ohio Dems to find a candidate who wasn't either of these two? Turner's better but neither of these candidates are good.
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« Reply #669 on: July 27, 2021, 01:52:51 PM »

Imagine posting a Newsweek article and taking it seriously.  Newsweek these days is in a tier before the NY Post.

This allegation has already been discredited, repeatedly, but that won't stop dishonest hacks from constantly trying to breathe new life into it.
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« Reply #670 on: July 27, 2021, 02:11:23 PM »

Shirley Smith, one of the other candidates in the OH-11 race, is spreading the Newsweek article-

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« Reply #671 on: July 27, 2021, 02:19:48 PM »

Nina Turner took Erdogan money as a consultant and Assad money as a candidate.
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« Reply #672 on: July 27, 2021, 02:25:35 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2021, 10:15:08 PM by Senator Ishan of the Northeast »

I am glad that this race will be over in 7 days.
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« Reply #673 on: July 27, 2021, 02:42:38 PM »

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1420007978711855109?s=19

Honestly, how hard would it have been for Ohio Dems to find a candidate who wasn't either of these two? Turner's better but neither of these candidates are good.

Dear god, is it too late to run Marcia Fudge's mom in this race? Asking for my friends in OH-11...
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« Reply #674 on: July 27, 2021, 02:51:55 PM »
« Edited: July 27, 2021, 03:11:22 PM by GeneralMacArthur »

Shirley Smith, one of the other candidates in the OH-11 race, is spreading the Newsweek article-



LOL THE ARTICLE IS BY WALKER BRAGMAN

It's also by Andrew Perez, who works at Jacobin and co-writes articles with David Sirota.

Guys, this is a classic Sanders campaign tactic and you're falling for it like a bunch of dunces.  It's just a Nina Turner attack ad thinly laundered through "journalists" who are all but on the campaign's payroll, then spread around as though it's a legitimate investigative article.

Sirota was actually being paid directly by the Sanders campaign to do this, and would have pushed out dozens of these articles over the course of the primaries if Edward Isaac-Dovere hadn't exposed him.

I mean in 2019 you had Sirota masquerading as an independent journalist to publish Sanders campaign oppo research on Beto in The Guardian, and now I'm 2021 you have Sirota's two proteges (he's also co-written dozens of articles with Bragman) publishing Turner campaign oppo research on Brown in Newsweek.  Like how are people still falling for this.

Take a look at their previous work to see what you're buying into here: https://muckrack.com/walker-bragman/articles
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