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« on: March 17, 2021, 06:16:23 AM »
« edited: March 17, 2021, 06:25:41 AM by Laki »

Ironically, Trump might be the only one who can beat her.

DeSantis however has a good shot too of beating her, but a lot of GOP candidates simply are less strong and won't have enthusiastic turn-out, and I don't think moderate suburbanites are going to magically return to the GOP after what happened, even if someone like AOC is the nominee. If she was the nominee, she would probably "moderate" her message as well.

If AOC had to run against Trump, AOC could use a different tactic, and she doesn't have to "moderate" her message, because the dynamics of the race would be completely different. Than she will get more moderate the moment she'll be in office or is being declared the winner, but never during the campaign.

Like AOC would never win if she moved to the center after winning the primaries if she had to run against Trump. If Trump makes no effort to win moderates or independents, AOC could win them over by just pointing out Trump's mistakes and controversies and his stances and what turmoil he caused in the political landscape. Many people are disgusted with Trump. Even them not voting for Trump is a vote for AOC. But she has no incentive to move to the left, because it will be more important to rally up her base, and get her base to shore turn-out, especially among demographics she'll be favoured and strong with: "urban centers, millenials / gen z / gen x, hispanics, women, name it). By doing that at the end, she'll turn out more voters than by moving to the left by competing for the last moderate voters, because people made their mind up about Trump, it's not going to change. They either like him and will vote for him at any cost, or they don't. There are some that might not like both, but if AOC is on the ballot, i think it's unlikely they'll vote for her, whatever she does because of her name and reputation.

So, her strategy is to double down on being very left-wing and progressive, because the chance of winning will be much higher. The Democratic base would move along. Because no-one wants to see a second term of Trump, and if they know the risk is there, they'll move along. The more differences you have with Trump, the better, and it would be important to make clear that distinction and those differences (it's a strategy, not what I believe in, but if i was a strategist, i would certainly encourage AOC to move in that direction for her).
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LAKISYLVANIA
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2021, 06:27:11 AM »
« Edited: March 17, 2021, 06:30:20 AM by Laki »

Either someone really extreme like MTG or Boebert or someone boring and uncharismatic like Larry Hogan.

Larry Hogan would destroy her. Suburbs would run back to the GOP in droves. Sure he probably wouldn’t get the rural turnout Trump did, but it’s not like they’re gonna vote for AOC! She would get McGoverned.
1. Hogan will never be nominated
2. Suburbs won't run back to the GOP in droves, because the GOP would still be the party of Trump
3. The cultists only want their emperor, not some wannabe emperor - traitor who's more like Clinton than their emperor himself.

Hogan would also move to mainstream GOP positions because he's not dumb, he realizes that too. He would certainly not be a Phil Scott / Charles Baker - tier candidate. He would be another Bush / Romney-kind of candidate. But he would never be able to shore up turn-out the way Trump did, and the suburbs won't return. The only reason why Hogan wouldn't be destroyed, is that they would be afraid of a AOC presidency. That's the only reason, although some other people (former GOP's) might even like the change in position from the Democratic Party, and think it's time for change, as she will be the more populist candidate.

Different dynamic, but I think AOC is favoured, and should even hope for someone like Hogan to be the nominee lol (although if he becomes the nominee, it would indicate he has some strengths).

AOC - MTG is much more likely to ever happen.
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