Opinion of American drone policies

[Lief 🗽]

it's your choose

I pick option 1 of course.

[Donerail]

[Antonio the Sixth]

Extrajudicial killing should NEVER happen, period. Yes, I've no problem saying Obama disappointed me big time on "war on terror" issues.

[Blackacre]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat

[DC Al Fine]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

[fezzyfestoon]

Amen

[Blackacre]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

[DC Al Fine]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

Exactly

Paul/Nader '16 !!!!!

[Blackacre]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

Exactly

Paul/Nader '16 !!!!!

*coughNader/Paul2016cough*

As long as it's Ron and not Rand, anyway

[Oakvale]

Option 1.

Regardless, the "American citizen" thing is entirely superfluous.

[Sopranos Republican]

Suspected terrorists? No way.
Known terrorists Yes.

[Lief 🗽]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

lol, yeah those left-wing and paultard loons who think 9/11 was an inside job must be right

[Donerail]

Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, killed while eating dinner at a restaurant in Yemen, age 16, two weeks after his father's death.

[Blackacre]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

lol, yeah those left-wing and paultard loons who think 9/11 was an inside job must be right

IDK where you got the 9/11 part from. We're grounded enough in reality to know that wasn't an inside job.

...or at least the Greenie is. Only speaking for myself.

[bedstuy]

If the choice is between invading and occupying failed states (Bush's way) and drone strikes (Obama's way), I think drone strikes are a fantastic policy.  The evidence we have seems to show that the drone strikes have significantly disrupted Al Qaeda and killed a large number of their leadership.

I really don't understand this civil liberties argument in regard to drones.  Drone strikes are in retaliation against terrorist attacks on the United States.  They are legal under international law as self-defense.  Armed conflicts kill people, both "innocent" and "guilty."  That's incredibly sad but, saying death due to legal military action is extrajudicial is missing the point.  Many more people died in WWII or the Korean conflict.  There was no judge making a legal determinations about every Chinese or German soldier. 

[Negusa Nagast 🚀]

Drones are the right way to go about obliterating these terrorist groups. The remnants of al Queada have been decimated by drone strikes.

Less civilian deaths would be preferable, however.

[Lief 🗽]

If the choice is between invading and occupying failed states (Bush's way) and drone strikes (Obama's way), I think drone strikes are a fantastic policy.  The evidence we have seems to show that the drone strikes have significantly disrupted Al Qaeda and killed a large number of their leadership.

I really don't understand this civil liberties argument in regard to drones.  Drone strikes are in retaliation against terrorist attacks on the United States.  They are legal under international law as self-defense.  Armed conflicts kill people, both "innocent" and "guilty."  That's incredibly sad but, saying death due to legal military action is extrajudicial is missing the point.  Many more people died in WWII or the Korean conflict.  There was no judge making a legal determinations about every Chinese or German soldier. 

Well said.

[Napoleon]

Extrajudicial killing should NEVER happen, period. Yes, I've no problem saying Obama disappointed me big time on "war on terror" issues.

Haven't agreed with you more! One of the fundamental liberal values is the right to a fair trial.

[Donerail]

If the choice is between invading and occupying failed states (Bush's way) and drone strikes (Obama's way), I think drone strikes are a fantastic policy.  The evidence we have seems to show that the drone strikes have significantly disrupted Al Qaeda and killed a large number of their leadership.

Except the choice is between drone strikes, drone strikes w/out killing US citizens, or no drone strikes.

[bedstuy]

If the choice is between invading and occupying failed states (Bush's way) and drone strikes (Obama's way), I think drone strikes are a fantastic policy.  The evidence we have seems to show that the drone strikes have significantly disrupted Al Qaeda and killed a large number of their leadership.

Except the choice is between drone strikes, drone strikes w/out killing US citizens, or no drone strikes.

Well, I think the citizen distinction is spurious which is kind of what I said.  At least until we invent foreigner seeking missiles...

[Simfan34]

Wufer Tebeges them.

[opebo]

I don't really mind the killing - after all it is in the nature of the beast - but what I do mind is the silly term 'terrorist'.  I'm so tired of all the transparent propaganda!

[Hash]

I certainly don't lose sleep over terrorists getting killed. I don't really give a sh**t if they're "Canadian" or "American" citizens. I lived in Riyadh during a hot terrorist season and I remember what it was like, so I'm not gonna be a bleeding heart on this.

[opebo]

I certainly don't lose sleep over terrorists getting killed. I don't really give a sh**t if they're "Canadian" or "American" citizens. I lived in Riyadh during a hot terrorist season and I remember what it was like, so I'm not gonna be a bleeding heart on this.

But do you have to call them 'terrorists'?  Its just so irritating that people still accept that nonsensical appellation.  Couldn't we agree to call them 'resistance fighters' or 'guerrillas' or something like this?

[DC Al Fine]

It's Obama's worst policy and the reason why I am no longer a Democrat a Ron Paul Republican.

When a Greenie and a Paulite agree so strongly on something, you know whoever's on the other side is  heavily in the wrong.

lol, yeah those left-wing and paultard loons who think 9/11 was an inside job must be right

IDK where you got the 9/11 part from. We're grounded enough in reality to know that wasn't an inside job.

...or at least the Greenie is. Only speaking for myself.

What a strange world we live in, where Lief supports extra-judicial killings and calls us the extremists.

Hint: If you send robots to shoot at people who've barely heard of indoor plumbing, you are the Empire. They are the bloody Ewoks.