Israeli General Election (2nd of March, 2020): Madness

[Walmart_shopper]

The irony is that the Joint List is given arguably more power now than if they were merely supporting a Gantz government from the outside. They are basically now part of the "government" faction of the Knesset.

Handel and Hauser don't seem bothered by this. Why not just let them vote once so the head of their list can become PM?

Apparently Touma-Suleman is rumored to lead a committee, would she agree to that?

And that’ll probably be the end result

Why wouldn't she?

[Hnv1]

The irony is that the Joint List is given arguably more power now than if they were merely supporting a Gantz government from the outside. They are basically now part of the "government" faction of the Knesset.

Handel and Hauser don't seem bothered by this. Why not just let them vote once so the head of their list can become PM?

Apparently Touma-Suleman is rumored to lead a committee, would she agree to that?

And that’ll probably be the end result

She already led a committee for 4 years from 2015-19

[The Mikado]

So is election #4 pretty much inevitable now?

[Antonio the Sixth]

When is the vote scheduled?

[jaymichaud]

When is the vote scheduled?

Wednesday. Apparently the right-wing bloc are 'boycotting' the knesset though

[Hnv1]

When is the vote scheduled?

Should be Wednesday but it seems Bibi gave a green light to Edlstein to defy the court ruling. This is turning really ugly really fast

[Lord Halifax]

When is the vote scheduled?

Should be Wednesday but it seems Bibi gave a green light to Edlstein to defy the court ruling. This is turning really ugly really fast

Can't the opposition MKs just ignore Edlstein and convene anyway?

[Hnv1]

When is the vote scheduled?

Should be Wednesday but it seems Bibi gave a green light to Edlstein to defy the court ruling. This is turning really ugly really fast

Can't the opposition MKs just ignore Edlstein and convene anyway?

Legally no...though you can appeal to the new house committee and they can schedule it to next Monday, but with Passover it will leave Gantz very short time frame to move with the bills he wants to push

[Antonio the Sixth]

When is the vote scheduled?

Should be Wednesday but it seems Bibi gave a green light to Edlstein to defy the court ruling. This is turning really ugly really fast

Can't the opposition MKs just ignore Edlstein and convene anyway?

Legally no...though you can appeal to the new house committee and they can schedule it to next Monday, but with Passover it will leave Gantz very short time frame to move with the bills he wants to push

"Legally"? If the Supreme Court has ordered the Knesset to convene, it makes no sense that the Knesset convening would be illegal. Whatever legal authority Edelstein used to have, he's clearly abdicated it by refusing to comply.

[Hnv1]

When is the vote scheduled?

Should be Wednesday but it seems Bibi gave a green light to Edlstein to defy the court ruling. This is turning really ugly really fast

Can't the opposition MKs just ignore Edlstein and convene anyway?

Legally no...though you can appeal to the new house committee and they can schedule it to next Monday, but with Passover it will leave Gantz very short time frame to move with the bills he wants to push

"Legally"? If the Supreme Court has ordered the Knesset to convene, it makes no sense that the Knesset convening would be illegal. Whatever legal authority Edelstein used to have, he's clearly abdicated it by refusing to comply.

The SC ordered the speaker to put this motion to a vote, it’s already convening.

Anyhow that’s not really what I’m talking about, of course legally you can think of moves to coerce compliance. But if he refuses a court ruling then the entire system is pretty much bust, convening would just be another move that will happen in the new (revolutionary for lack of better term in english) legal system that will come out of this constitutional crisis. Going back to general jurisprudence this is basically the end of this legal system if the state of Israel as the rule of law collapsed, from it will have to come a new order.

[Hnv1]

Edlstein might resign just before 00:00 to avoid disobeying the order directly but causing more of a cluster . If the right is so panicked about those laws I suppose that means B&W should push for them hard

[Walmart_shopper]

Edlstein might resign just before 00:00 to avoid disobeying the order directly but causing more of a cluster . If the right is so panicked about those laws I suppose that means B&W should push for them hard

Leaving Netanyahu in as a lameduck crisis manager for six months while pushing their own legislative agenda and later bringing Bibi down when it is politically plausible might indeed be the best outcome, and probably the one Netanyahu fears most.

[Hnv1]

Speaker is resigning now. Coming into effect in 48 hours. I need to go through the house code to see what happens erstwhile

[jaymichaud]

Speaker is resigning now. Coming into effect in 48 hours. I need to go through the house code to see what happens erstwhile

Bye Felicia.

[Hnv1]

He’s still speaker for another 48 hours and he refuses to bring it to vote today. Coup d’etat

[America Needs R'hllor]

He’s still speaker for another 48 hours and he refuses to bring it to vote today. Coup d’etat

Let's say it again: the Speaker of the Knesset refuses to comply with the Supreme Court's decision.

I still can't believe Hendel and Hauser aren't letting Gantz become Prime Minister. He literally can become Prime Minister tomorrow. Shocking and appalling.

[CumbrianLefty]

How did Israel end up with such a rabidly partisan Speaker in the first place?

[Hnv1]

How did Israel end up with such a rabidly partisan Speaker in the first place?

He was elected by a majority when I wasn’t as partisan and ever since stayed so due the incessant elections.

If the SC doesn’t bring about a writ to vote today, protesters should storm the building

[Walmart_shopper]

How did Israel end up with such a rabidly partisan Speaker in the first place?

He was elected by a majority when I wasn’t as partisan and ever since stayed so due the incessant elections.

If the SC doesn’t bring about a writ to vote today, protesters should storm the building

A decision is expected within the hour, notably coninciding with Bibi and Rivlin coming out of hiding to give consecutive speeches.

[Hnv1]

Abysmal. If a unity government is formed at the end Gantz is as dead politically as absolute monarchism. Edlestein should be in chains or facing a wall. Not being tenderly reprimanded by the president.

I hope this isn’t a followed by mass disobedience by citizens. If they don’t comply with the rule of law we shouldn’t comply with the law

[jaymichaud]

Rivlin sucks!

[America Needs R'hllor]

The Knesset counselor suggested that the senior Knesset member (which is Amir Peretz) will act as a co speaker and bring the vote for the next permanent Speaker to the floor. Which means tomorrow. We'll see if the SC justices accept that.

[America Needs R'hllor]

The SC made it officially: Amir Peretz will officially be a co-Speaker to Edlestein. He'll schedule a vote tomorrow, so we're probably going to see Meir Cohen become Speaker if Gantz doesn't cave to Netanyahu's sweet promises (apparently he REALLY doesn't want this to happen).

[Hnv1]

It’s ridiculous how the right are crying about the breakup of democracy following the SC’s decision that only came about because Edlestein did not comply with a writ! I rather have civil war then unity

[EastAnglianLefty]

Presumably after all this is done Likud will be arguing for US-style appointment of Supreme Court justices?