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DL
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« on: July 23, 2023, 08:04:59 PM »

100.00% of precincts counted:

33.1% PP, 136 (+47)
31.7% PSOE, 122 (+2)
12.4% Vox, 33 (-19)
12.3% Sumar, 31 (-7)
  1.9% ERC, 7 (-6)
  1.6% Junts, 7 (-1)
  1.4% Bildu, 6 (+1)
  1.1% PNV, 5 (-1)
  0.6% BNG, 1 (nc)
  0.5% CC, 1 (nc)
  0.2% UPN, 1 (nc)
  3.2% Others
 
70.4% Turnout (+0.5)

How is that parties gained 50 seats but losses only equal 35? Where did the other 15 come from?
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2023, 07:01:35 AM »

When are the votes from Spaniards abroad (CERA) countes? I think I read they tend to favor the left so could that change a seat or two?
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2023, 02:01:42 PM »

How do you pronounce "Feijóo"? - seems like a strange name
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2023, 03:01:54 PM »

This discussion about how the Spanish right would benefit from Catalonia seceding reminds me of how many conservatives in Canada were secretly hoping Quebec would vote to separate since the extreme unpopularity of the Conservatives in Quebec always made it almost impossible for them to win power nationally.   
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2023, 07:29:24 PM »

So if there is another election this winter what is likely to happen? Does Sanchez have momentum from his better than expected result? Is the PP led by someone new?
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2023, 09:12:14 AM »

I don't know why Junts wouldn't support PSOE, this is like they've just won the jackpot, I don't think they'll have a chance to be kingmakers if the elections are repeated. They will probably ask for a lot, but they should meet PSOE halfway if they really want to get something out of this.

Because their entire identity is built around being pro-independence hardliners, so the only big demands they have are to give Puigdemont amnesty or to hold an official referendum, neither of which leaves room for compromise. Also if a VOX-PP government wins they'll have an easier time pushing for full independence than against a semi-conciliatory Socialist grand alliance.

Sounds like how many Quebec separatists had this misconception that if the Conservatives took power in Canada federally they would be so unpopular in Quebec it would pave the way for a resurgence of separatist sentiment. Didn't work out that way...
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2023, 04:46:08 PM »

CC would surely be putting the "hero" in "moderate hero" if they actually do it

They are the "canary in the coal mine" (sorry could not resist)
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« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2023, 06:08:22 PM »

Why did Murcia shift so hard to the right anyway? PSOE used to be pretty strong there — they had a majority throughout the 80s and ruled until 1995.

And Murcia was also. Republican stronghold during the Spanish Civil War
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2023, 10:13:04 AM »

I normally have a lot of time for Anne Appelbaum - but she ought to know better in this case. The alternative to an amnesty deal that keeps Sanchez in power, is likely a rabidly rightwing government where the fascist, pro-Putin Vox party has a lot of power.
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