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« on: October 04, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 02:52:41 PM »

PPD/PSD.CDS-PP
Portugal à Frente
   
41,31%
599.275 votos
   
Mandatos
10

PS
Partido Socialista
   
31,60%
458.338 votos
   
Mandatos
3

B.E.
Bloco de Esquerda
   
8,18%
118.591 votos
   
PCP-PEV
CDU - Coligação Democrática Unitária
   
6,60%
95.740 votos
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 02:57:00 PM »

Anyway, in order to be a bit more productive, no "small party" gets more than 1.3% in either Lisboa or Porto for now, making it improbable that anyone other than the "Big Four" will get in.
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2015, 03:00:44 PM »

What are the typical "swing Districts" I could look at to see what the eventual vote tally is going to look like?
From a quick look, Coimbra, Porto and Santarem were the bellwethers of last time.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 03:05:54 PM »

Turnout seems to have been way overestimated by pollsters, and could well end below last time's. No idea why, but futebol may be to blame/thank.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 03:11:44 PM »

In Lisboa, after the Big Four :
PAN (Pessoas-Animais-Natureza) (centre-left ecologist) 1,54%   
PCTP/MRPP 1,34%
PDR (Partido Democrático Republicano) (centrist) 1,07%
L/TDA (LIVRE/Tempo de Avançar) 0,74%
PNR (far-right) 0,63%
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 03:13:12 PM »

Turnout seems to have been way overestimated by pollsters, and could well end below last time's. No idea why, but futebol may be to blame/thank.
I suppose this benefits PaF? Or isn't it clear?
Yeah, it could have prevented a bigger blow to the government, who is currently retaining a strong plurality, near absolute majority.
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 03:24:39 PM »

How could be already some MP´s for for example Lisboa awarded? Are there some constiuncies separated?
In PR in a constituency, once you reach the quota, you have one seat.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2015, 03:39:59 PM »

If 2011 results are any indication, BE should end up at around 9.8%, CDU at around 8.3%, PS at around 31.4%.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2015, 03:44:31 PM »

So this will likely lead to a PS govt with explicit outside support from BE and tacit Communist support, if the right doesn't win a majority?
No way. This will more probably result in a minority right-wing government, with just the support they'll need to pass bills from a few PS MPs.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2015, 04:25:59 PM »

Does somebody have a link to a website with nice maps and results coming in?
The official website is not too shabby : http://www.legislativas2015.mai.gov.pt/territorio-nacional.html
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2015, 04:39:26 PM »


Yep, it's possible to check results by district (distrito), municipality (concelho) and locality (freguesia).

For instance: results for Carnota, a freguesia in the concelho of Alenquer belonging to the distrito of Lisboa:

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/eleicoes/legislativas/2015/110000-lisboa/110100-alenquer/110106-carnota
This is also possible on the official website though : http://www.legislativas2015.mai.gov.pt/territorio-nacional.html#%00
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2015, 04:40:54 PM »

Antonio Costa speaking. He just announced a reduction of abstention, which doesn't seem to be the case, actually.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2015, 05:11:10 PM »

Why is PaF doing so well in Lisboa? I thought the city leaned left.
The district as a whole leans a bit left, yes, but the city (concelho) itslef seems pretty much in line with the country.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2015, 05:43:31 PM »

If there's going to be a right-wing minority government dependent of PS MPs' outside support, what are the chances that it will collapse before 2019?
I don't know, things are still a bit fuzzy. I don't think Portugal is used to a national minority government. This may not last very long at all.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2015, 05:55:47 PM »

In Lisbon, one freguesia still missing, but making the calculations it should be :
PSD 18
PS 18
BE 5+1
CDU 5

The +1 is the last D'Hondt seat there. It's very very close with PSD.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2015, 06:13:35 PM »

On 226 seats for mainland Portugal we should get :
PSD 100+4 = 104
PS 80+5 = 85
BE 19+1 = 20
CDU 15+2 = 17

With abroad seats, that should be 3 PSD and 1 PS :
PSD 107
PS 86
BE 20
CDU 17
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2015, 06:24:00 PM »

In Lisbon, one freguesia still missing, but making the calculations it should be :
PSD 18
PS 18
BE 5+1
CDU 5

The +1 is the last D'Hondt seat there. It's very very close with PSD.

my impression is that one seat will go to PAN (if the quota is something like 25.000 votes).
rtp.pt/noticias/eleicoes/legislativas/2015/110000-lisboa
Well I had overlooked that, but you, my friend, are absolutely right : in fact it would be the 45th seat. They just have to hope their result holds in the last freguesia.
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2015, 07:13:50 PM »

Quite cool indeed. Wonder if they're anything like PvdD. Seem less radical to me though.

This result is proof that D'Hondt in 40-50 seats constituencies is one of the best systems we've got. I find it particularly fitting that PAN is also the better polling "small party" nationally.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2015, 09:03:25 AM »

Errr... What is ?
I'm still pessimistic about the prospects of this "mariage de la carpe et du lapin" government. But hey what the hell, maybe something good will come out of it, for once.
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