The Delegate Fight: 2016

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Green Papers still has Nevada 20-15 Hillary. But you still have one more delegate for Bernie somewhere else than them, do you know where?

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You left out the contrived outrage mentioned in your title from the article excerpt.

Why'd this get merged? It's pretty ridiculous that the Colorado Democratic party covered it up until the congressional district caucus.

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Wait, so Bernie won 1 more delegate than expected, and you're still complaining.  Jesus.

The party shouldn't tell just Hillary and keep it a secret from the public and the Bernie campaign. That's corruption.

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Wait, so Bernie won 1 more delegate than expected, and you're still complaining.  Jesus.

The party shouldn't tell just Hillary and keep it a secret from the public and the Bernie campaign. That's corruption.

You realize that this doesn't even matter, right?  The delegates to Philadelphia are bound based on the results of the CD conventions, not on the original caucus vote.  The election of the actual physical delegates from the precinct caucuses to the county conventions was carried out correctly, just the wrong numbers were reported to the media.

Even if the error had never been caught, it would have been "corrected" by the results of the CD 1 convention on April 9, anyway.

The actual figure is only of interest to a subset of people on this forum, literally nobody else in the world.

I know it would be corrected, but it made it look a bit harder for Bernie to get the nomination as long as it was uncorrected. And the Bernie campaign didn't find out until after the convention.

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Well, you seem to be the only one who has it, but MS-03 did choose a Bernie delegate today.

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How many delegates would Trump have to win to ensure that the majority would actually be pro-Trump delegates? 1400? 1500?

For a typical candidate? Probably about 1400 or 1500.  Delegate loyalties are much weaker than is generally assumed, even in typical cycles; it just doesn't usually matter.

But Trump doesn't just have disloyalty; he is hated by the longtime members of his own party, the conservatives even more than the establishment.  To actually have a loyal majority for Trump... yeah, I think vosem has it: 2500 or so bound delegates should do it.

He might be able to pull it off with 2000, because of the big states that allow candidates to pick their own delegates.  But we are well into the realm of the hypothetical here, because Trump won't have 2000 loyal delegates.

I think the world in general -- which is not doing the math on delegate loyalty -- is underestimating the possibility that Trump will win 1,237, but Cruz/Kasich will orchestrate a convention rules change to force a second ballot anyway.

Of course if they unbind the delegates to deny him the nomination, Trump would likely run 3rd party.