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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: November 10, 2021, 03:35:17 PM »

Huh, interesting. Maybe they're trying to play it safe with the SC?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2022, 03:26:08 PM »

If De Santis vetoes the legislature's maps, could you see Democrats voting with Republicans to override it? At least assuming it's a reasonably fair map like the current Senate version.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2022, 07:51:52 AM »

So we're probably looking at a map that's less fair than the Senate one but nothing like the De Santis one. Something like the House map that nukes Murphy?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2022, 10:05:56 AM »

I agree that keeping a core St. Pete and core Tampa seats makes more sense than the current Senate configuration, tbh (it's weird that they're so adamant on creating 2 swing districts in Hillsborough, but who knows what they're thinking). In every other respect though the Senate map is clearly better.
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Antonio the Sixth
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2022, 05:10:33 PM »

Desantis's map is way less likely to get struck down than the senate map if either are sued.

lmao what

I mean. Maybe that turns out to be true because the FLSC is stacked with hacks, but that's. Not what I imagine the legal consensus is.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2022, 05:12:29 PM »

Desantis's map is way less likely to get struck down than the senate map if either are sued.

lmao what

I mean. Maybe that turns out to be true because the FLSC is stacked with hacks, but that's. Not what I imagine the legal consensus is.

Miller v Johnson. See how the Dekalb Savanah district got struck down by the conservatives on SCOTUS in the 1990's. Note that the map was designed by the GOP.

...you know that the FLSC drew the current configuration in the North right?
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,250
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2022, 05:52:57 PM »

Desantis's map is way less likely to get struck down than the senate map if either are sued.

lmao what

I mean. Maybe that turns out to be true because the FLSC is stacked with hacks, but that's. Not what I imagine the legal consensus is.

Miller v Johnson. See how the Dekalb Savanah district got struck down by the conservatives on SCOTUS in the 1990's. Note that the map was designed by the GOP.

...you know that the FLSC drew the current configuration in the North right?

This isn't about the FLSC. This is about FL05 being illegal federally.

Then why wasn't it ruled illegal decades ago? Huh
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2022, 05:57:51 PM »

Desantis's map is way less likely to get struck down than the senate map if either are sued.

lmao what

I mean. Maybe that turns out to be true because the FLSC is stacked with hacks, but that's. Not what I imagine the legal consensus is.

Miller v Johnson. See how the Dekalb Savanah district got struck down by the conservatives on SCOTUS in the 1990's. Note that the map was designed by the GOP.

...you know that the FLSC drew the current configuration in the North right?

This isn't about the FLSC. This is about FL05 being illegal federally.

Then why wasn't it ruled illegal decades ago? Huh

No one has bothered suing. The FL GOP legislatively certainly wouldn't benefit as they get a lot of gerrymander benefits from these maps.

lol ok

You've been going on with bizarre galaxy-brained takes on redistricting for a while but this one takes the cake.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2022, 05:24:35 PM »

So this is the map that nukes Murphy but is otherwise reasonably fair? Unfortunate, but I guess I can live with it.
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Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
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Posts: 58,250
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2022, 04:22:53 PM »

What would FL's map look like if it had a commission like Michigan?

Honestly not too different from the map the Senate passed.
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Antonio the Sixth
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Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2024, 12:19:58 PM »

I have no idea how you reconcile that with the Alabama and Louisiana decisions.
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