Turns out some unions in St. Paul are f[inks]ing vile

[Sopranos Republican]

Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

There are no mask mandates in Minnesota (outside of hospitals in areas that had them before Covid.)

[Sopranos Republican]

Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

There are no mask mandates in Minnesota (outside of hospitals in areas that had them before Covid.)

Employees can still mandate them in the workplace though, no?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Excellent news! Let’s hope they also fight against mask mandates for workers as well.

There are no mask mandates in Minnesota (outside of hospitals in areas that had them before Covid.)

Employees can still mandate them in the workplace though, no?

If you mean "employers" yes but: 1-I don't know of any that do and 2-this decision only applies to public employers.

[GregTheGreat657]

This is better than most union actions

[lakeview]

He vaccine while not designed for the current variant does provide some protection. If it didn't we'd see hospitals filling up and infection surging. That's not happening because even if people vaccinated catch it because the antibodies aren't effective, the T-cells are and it's basically just a cold. So this it's not a big threat to the healthcare system. But that's only true because so many people are vaccinated.

This is a specific logical fallacy called affirming the consequent. You are saying "If the vaccines were working, the hospitals would not be overwhelmed. The hospitals are not overwhelmed, so the vaccines are working."

The hospitals could be in a not-busy state for many other reasons. Milder variant (almost certainly true), and summer season (seems true, since Summer 2020 was also quiet, before vaccines were available), to name two.

The all-time peak of Covid hospitalizations in both the U.S. and Canada came after the vaccines were administered, not before. So no, I don't buy that they're the only thing standing between us and a collapsed healthcare system. Not at all, actually.

[Schiff for Senate]

This is better than most union actions

Really? Wanting a living wage and to be paid for overtime, is less virtuous a cause than not wanting to get a safe and effective vaccine to protect yourself and those around you? Republican values and priorities on full display here. They don’t want you to fight for a living wage but they do want you to fight against public safety…

[TheTide]

On the whole Covid vs. the flu thing - the latter is worse than is generally believed whilst the former isn't as bad as is generally believed.

[Dr. MB]

Your job shouldn't be tied to what you decide to put in your body. It's a labor rights issue more than a public health issue - removing the coercion and exploitation inherently present in demanding people get vaccinated as a condition of keeping their job - and the unions here are doing exactly what they should be doing. It's the same logic as required drug tests.