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Kalwejt
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« on: February 08, 2013, 02:55:40 PM »

Okay serious question here:

We've all had the "well my Civil Rights history is better than your Civil Rights history!" debate.  Okay, whatever.

But, with that said, instead of obsessively dwelling on the past, why not, well do something for minorities today?

Just a thought.

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 09:19:16 AM »

Supporting statesrights does not make you racist. I get what you mean about Thurmond though but its important to remember many racists stayed with the democrats Hollings,Smathers,Wallace.

Poor argument. So they retained Democratic affilation. Liberal Republicans remained Republicans too, but this political generation died out. If we're discussing voters in general, then one can't possibly deny Dixiecrats started to vote Republican, while former liberal Republican Yankees started to vote Democratic.

As of Hollings, the man started desegregation in South Carolina way before fellow Southern Democrats were even ready to consider accepting this. Calling him the racist is ignorant.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 05:19:49 PM »


Yeah, but that was long after race was resolved as an issue.  And why did Holllings oppose desegregation and the removal of the Confederate flag at the South Carolina capitol if he was so progressive on racial issues?

Also, how do you explain this picture of Hollings with JFK?


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Wrong, not long after race issue was resolved.

While Governor, Hollings rejected calls from the Dixiecrats (pretty much the entire South Carolina political establishment which was ready to raise hell) to actively resist court decision to desegregate Clemson University (by admitting Harvey Gantt) or even shut it down. Instead he flatly ordered the state to comply and made sure there were no riots or violence, as it happened during similar proceedings in Alabama or Mississippi. You really think it was easy decision not only to make but also to enforce? That took guts.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 02:57:26 PM »
« Edited: February 13, 2013, 02:59:38 PM by Fegelein's antics »

I know, OK? The point wasn't "Fritz Hollings was a tireless fighter for civil rights since the day he was born", but he did deserve credit for his actions regarding Clemson crisis in 1962.

He also voted against confirming Thurgood Marshall to the Supreme Court.

Oldiesfreak logic: Senators Alexander (R-TN), Barrasso (R-WY), Bennett (R-UT), Bond (R-MO), Brown (R-MA), Brownback (R-KS), Bunning (R-KY), Burr (R-NC), Chambliss (R-GA), Coburn (R-OK), Cochran (R-MS), Corker (R-TN), Cornyn (R-TX), Crapo (R-ID), DeMint (R-SC), Ensign (R-NV), Enzi (R-WY), Grassley (R-IA), Hatch (R-UT), Hutchison (R-TX), Inhofe (R-OK), Isakson (R-GA), Johanns (R-NE), Kyl (R-AZ), LeMieux (R-FL), McCain (R-AZ), McConnell (R-KY), Murkowski (R-AK), Nelson (D-NE), Risch (R-ID), Roberts (R-KS), Sessions (R-AL), Shelby (R-AL), Thune (R-SD), Vitter (R-LA), Voinovich (R-OH), and Wicker (R-MS) are all anti-Semites, because they voted against confirming Elena Kagan.

To be fair, Southern votes against Marshall were mostly motived by race politics, though it's pretty good characteristic of Oldies' logic.

It was pandering to the base, that would go nuclear if they voted "aye". Amusingly, 20 years after voring against Marshall's confirmation, Hollings supported Jesse Jackson for the Democratic nomination.
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