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Question: Was Chamberlain's 1939 war guarantee to Poland wise?/ Would Bush be wise to offer a war guarantee to Israel?
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« on: July 19, 2008, 01:15:41 PM »

The Nazis were always going to go on a mad conquest-and-destruction spree... that much is blindingly obvious to anyone who's ever looked at Nazi economic policy, let alone the bloody rhetoric...
^^^^^^

It's always amusing to see people guess (incorrectly) at such things.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 12:32:40 PM »

as long as they left any fortune they might have behind and didn't go to a place where they would be a danger to Germany in the foreseeable future. Ie, preferrably to a colonial possession outside Europe. Such as Palestine.

And, of course, the Madagascar Plan.

That is one of the most interesting stages of Nazi racial planning.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 02:36:55 PM »

However, without the World War, only the Jews in Germany, Austria, Czechslovakia, and part of Poland. Without the war guarantee, the Jews of Holland, Belgium, France, Italy, Yugoslavia, Greece, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria would have most likely been saved.

Even if this demented idea that there would have been no war without a war guarantee is accepted as the truth (and it rather obviously shouldn't be), I should point out that the Jewish population in the group of four countries above was far larger than the latter group.

Yes, but the destruction would have been limited to those areas. The Jews of the rest of Europe would have survived. Additionally, the Jews that were in those areas could have left Germany for Palestine or the United States, since there would be no war going on.

Nope. Not after 1935 or so.

Also, you neglect to mention that the Final Solution wasn't made until 1942.

Myth. The mass murder of the Jews of Europe started on the eastern front in the summer of 1941.

Almost two years after the war began.

But it had been planned long before. Its coniciding with the war was just that, a coincidence.


Some people think that genocide, ethnic cleansing and total war are bad things. Note also that the Holocaust only began after the invasion of the Soviet Union.

And why should Stalin be given a free pass for genocide, ethnic cleansing, and total war? Stalin invaded Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania prior to Operation Barbarosa (sp?) and additionally placed East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and Albania under the Iron Curtain. Its not like he was morally superior to Hitler when it came to invading independent nations.

Neither was the United States.


Danzig was most certainly not[/i under Polish administration. It is part of Poland now but was not then.

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