Should it be legal for race to be a criteria in sperm donor request?

[ingemann]

I'm pretty uncomfortable with the entire idea of sperm donations, actually. Voted no.

Interesting, I don't think I've heard an argument against them before. Why?

Really? It's the same arguments that are used against IVF in general, which are pretty common.

1) Why go to so much trouble to create a new life when there are already so many orphans in the world? It's basically just because people are vain, they can only love a child if it has their genes. Such people shouldn't be parents in the first place.

A significant of transnational adoption are stolen and/or bought children even in the third world, where we would think there was a oversupply. So to some degree those "unwanted" children are just one more way, for the rich world to extract resources, this time the most precious one they have at allm from the poor world.

[ingemann]

There exist this idea among Americans, but also among many other westners that the poor world, is just full of poor orphans who can be send to the west. The problem even in the best cases, transnational adoption is controversial, in Korea as exampole who send many children abroad up to the 90ties, girls who had become pregnant outside wedlock was de facto forced to give up their children. In Africa the chilodren usual have large extended families, and the children are often stolen or sold by their parents thanks to the western demand for children.

No there's not some massive oversupply of orphans, there's some states who choose to push it because of domestic policies, but the massive oversupply people imagine exist, doesn't at least not for young children, for older children, there's more, but everything indicate that transnational adoption for them is rather traumatising.

[ingemann]

[There are areas humans shouldn't live in as many numbers as they live, but that's really only a problem for the people living in those areas.  They can move to places more suitable to human beings, as they should.

Netherlands are swamps and sea floors from nature side, I personal think the Dutch have done better by not moving to a places more suitable to human beings.