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« Reply #675 on: August 20, 2018, 06:40:21 PM »

Wow!

Dutton has little chance of success unless Australia has suddenly become a right wing republic sick of the introduction of economic migrants to the superannuation-draining financially cripppling metropolises of Sydney and Melbourne with urban property prices up so high, we cannot afford to live in our own cities, so we all moved to the drought stricken outback of central NSW where there is little or no economy.

And who cannot trust our Government officials to administer our hard earned taxes correctly and not pocket it themselves.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/corrupt-health-department-trio-told-to-pay-back-monies-ng-b88934372z

Oh wait.

Looks like Turnbull survived.
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« Reply #676 on: August 20, 2018, 06:56:09 PM »

PETER DUTTON HAS RESIGNED
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« Reply #677 on: August 20, 2018, 07:33:45 PM »

Two pieces of info from party colleagues:
1) Julie Bishop will stay on as Deputy no matter what, whether under Turnbull or Dutton.
That means if Tony wins he gets either Home Affairs or Defence

2) Conservatives are watching Cormann. A couple more juniors are going to jump, however if Cormann goes then we get a wave of mass resignations.
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« Reply #678 on: August 20, 2018, 07:38:56 PM »

If Dutton doesn't challenge again this week then we get Newspoll on Monday. The Newspoll will decide the course of action.
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« Reply #679 on: August 20, 2018, 07:40:13 PM »

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« Reply #680 on: August 20, 2018, 09:22:24 PM »

It's great that this kind of leadership election system exists somewhere, but it should only be allowed in economies that can literally dig money out of the ground and sell it to China.
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« Reply #681 on: August 20, 2018, 09:40:40 PM »

ScoMo is acting Home Affairs Minister
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« Reply #682 on: August 20, 2018, 09:41:29 PM »

I mean, I guess Dutton will save them a few marginals in Queensland maybe; but at the cost of being massacred in Victoria and NSW right?
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« Reply #683 on: August 20, 2018, 09:58:09 PM »

I mean, I guess Dutton will save them a few marginals in Queensland maybe; but at the cost of being massacred in Victoria and NSW right?
Firstly, the election will be decided in Queensland. Almost all the marginals are in Queensland. The redistribution means that in Victoria there are 4 seats they've lost, however that has shored up all their other seats to safe territory. Likewise in SA and in WA the swing has disappeared.
The thing is, Dutton will probably do better than Turnbull. Turnbull is trying to appeal to moderates, however they've abandoned him as he can't appeal to them what with the conservatives gun to his head. Meanwhile Dutton doesn't care about moderates, rather he appeals to One Nation voters and Labor voters who are inclined to vote for Pauline. Turnbull will perform just as bad as Dutton among moderates because he hasn't done anything moderate or bipartisan given how shaky his position is. At least Dutton can stop the bleeding to ON, hold up the vote in Queensland
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« Reply #684 on: August 20, 2018, 10:09:47 PM »

Peter Dutton will hold his first press conference as a backbencher at 1.15pm.
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« Reply #685 on: August 20, 2018, 10:11:32 PM »

I'm guessing in SA the assumption is that Xenephon will underperform his previous score so they won't add seats like Grey and Sturt to their number?

So I'm guessing you're predicting the Libs will lose seats like La Trobe, Chisholm, Higgins (to the Greens?) Etc while keeping their seats in regional Queensland like capricornia (and their metro seats like Brisbane and Forse?)
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« Reply #686 on: August 20, 2018, 10:23:43 PM »

I'm guessing in SA the assumption is that Xenephon will underperform his previous score so they won't add seats like Grey and Sturt to their number?

So I'm guessing you're predicting the Libs will lose seats like La Trobe, Chisholm, Higgins (to the Greens?) Etc while keeping their seats in regional Queensland like capricornia (and their metro seats like Brisbane and Forse?)
The Centre Alliance is dead.
Higgins is pretty safe, Corangamite is lost, Chisholm and La Trobe are 50/50.
The election will be decided in Queensland. In Herbert, Capricornia, Forde, Flynn, Petrie and Dickson.
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« Reply #687 on: August 20, 2018, 10:38:58 PM »

What are you predicting will be the 2PP? At the moment ALP is way ahead.

I know Centre Alliance underperformed in the last state election, but Sharks did win her seat back so I assume it's not completely dead. As for Higgins, it strikes me as a seat that would be very ... off on somebody like Dutton.
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« Reply #688 on: August 20, 2018, 10:42:18 PM »

What are you predicting will be the 2PP? At the moment ALP is way ahead.

I know Centre Alliance underperformed in the last state election, but Sharks did win her seat back so I assume it's not completely dead. As for Higgins, it strikes me as a seat that would be very ... off on somebody like Dutton.
All the polls with the exception of the Ipsos have been Lab 51-49. What matters is what the Newspoll will say on Monday. That will set the Agenda.

Sharkie won her seat because she's popular and the Liberals nominated Georgina Downer. She'll probably become an Independent after next election. Meanwhile in Higgins you forget firstly the incompetence of the Greens and secondly the fact that voters are very capable of ignoring who the party leader is, particularly federally.
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« Reply #689 on: August 20, 2018, 11:12:11 PM »

Bill Shorten has placed a motion of no confidence.
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« Reply #690 on: August 21, 2018, 12:24:53 AM »

THE SPEAKER HAS CALLED A DIVISION ON THE MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE
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« Reply #691 on: August 21, 2018, 12:26:29 AM »

THE SPEAKER HAS CALLED A DIVISION ON THE MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE
Doors are locked, tellers appointed.
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« Reply #692 on: August 21, 2018, 12:28:17 AM »

AYES 67
NOES 76
The motion is not agreed to.
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« Reply #693 on: August 21, 2018, 01:22:40 AM »

Everything you want to know about Peter Dutton
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« Reply #694 on: August 21, 2018, 02:08:57 AM »

Sky News has the list of who voted for Dutton



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« Reply #695 on: August 21, 2018, 02:11:21 AM »

Michael Sukkar, member for Deakin, Assistant Minister to the Treasurer and key Victorian Right powerbroker has resigned from cabinet.
This means the second spill is on.
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« Reply #696 on: August 21, 2018, 02:14:37 AM »

Peter Dutton will be Australia's 30th prime minister within a week. We just don't know when the second spill will be.
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« Reply #697 on: August 21, 2018, 02:15:29 AM »

Peter Dutton will be Australia's 30th prime minister within a week. We just don't know when the second spill will be.
Tuesday is shaping up. Thursday seems a bit soon.
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« Reply #698 on: August 21, 2018, 02:34:06 AM »

Say hello to our next PM
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« Reply #699 on: August 21, 2018, 02:48:32 AM »

Lets take a moment to pay our respects to our 29th Prime Minister
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