McInnes assaulted at NYU. Pepperspayed. Professor advocated violence. 11 arrests

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This is insane. This is not normal. This is something you expect from religious cultists.

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Remember, these people, who are trying to shut down 'unfavorable' opinions, deem themselves as 'anti-fascists'. It's always the same twisted shtick. 'Racist! Xenophobes! Homophobes! Nazi's™!' Blanch repeat. Blanch repeat.

11 people were arrested.

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I hope JJC's condescending tsk-tsk'ing over time causes more people here  to agree with the protestors.

No one but loons agree with you. You and your fascists cultist are an extreme minority and always will be.

You angry, bigoted, hateful people will always be a minority. Always. It may not seem like it to you, because people like you surround yourselves with like-minded cultists. But your ideas are horrible and your means of achieving them are even worse.

That's all you are; an angry, hateful, spiteful person who dreams of hurting people you don't like. 'Nazi' to you is just an insult. A 'Nazi' is a person you don't like. When you advocate 'punching nazi's', what you are really saying is; 'I support hurting people who I don't agree with'.

Which happens to be the vast majority of the country.

Because you are not normal. You never will be. Fortunately though, decent people far outnumber the violent radicals.

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I hope JJC's condescending tsk-tsk'ing over time causes more people here  to agree with the protestors.

No one but loons agree with you. You and your fascists cultist are an extreme minority and always will be.

You angry, bigoted, hateful people will always be a minority. Always. It may not seem like it to you, because people like you surround yourselves with like-minded cultists. But your ideas are horrible and your means of achieving them are even worse.

That's all you are; an angry, hateful, spiteful person who dreams of hurting people you don't like. 'Nazi' to you is just an insult. A 'Nazi' is a person you don't like. When you advocate 'punching nazi's', what you are really saying is; 'I support hurting people who I don't agree with'.

Which happens to be the vast majority of the country.

Because you are not normal. You never will be. Fortunately though, decent people far outnumber the violent radicals.

LMAO, all these criticisms could be applied to you far right dullards.

I never see far-righters rioting and trying to shut down descent. I never see them looting or breaking things.  If someone does, it is wrong and I condemn it.

I condemn all violence against people with differing opinions, no matter who they are, or how outrages I think those opinions are.

The left always labels conservatives as 'inciting violence' and 'threatening people'. Yet I see hatred, bigotry, and threats of violence against me every. single. day.

I can tune into MSNBC or any liberal blog (or 'news' network) and listen to people tell me that I'm racist xenophobic, bigoted, sexism--ect, ect. I can listen to them say that I should not be aloud to express my views because they deem them as hateful and bigoted.

Let me ask you, what's the difference between that, and some right winger wanting to strip muslims of the first amendment because he thinks they spread homophobia, bigotry, and sexism?

Where would you stand on that? I'm pretty sure you would be screaming about the downfall of liberty of such an instance.

For the record, I do think the ideology of islam spreads all of those things. And no, I don't think they should be silenced. And I condemn anyone who thinks they should be.

Silencing opposition - even opposition that you think is hateful - always leads to tyranny.

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I hope JJC's condescending tsk-tsk'ing over time causes more people here  to agree with the protestors.

No one but loons agree with you. You and your fascists cultist are an extreme minority and always will be.

You angry, bigoted, hateful people will always be a minority. Always. It may not seem like it to you, because people like you surround yourselves with like-minded cultists. But your ideas are horrible and your means of achieving them are even worse.

That's all you are; an angry, hateful, spiteful person who dreams of hurting people you don't like. 'Nazi' to you is just an insult. A 'Nazi' is a person you don't like. When you advocate 'punching nazi's', what you are really saying is; 'I support hurting people who I don't agree with'.

Which happens to be the vast majority of the country.

Because you are not normal. You never will be. Fortunately though, decent people far outnumber the violent radicals.

ummm Hillary won by 2.865 million votes. Barack Obama by 4 million votes and 10 million. I'm afraid he has more people on his side than you do on yours.

What uhm, "vast majority of the country" are you talking about? 40% of the country wants to impeach your God-Emperor.

Democrats lost nearly 1,000 state legislative seats. Republicans now control 33 governor’s offices and in 25 of those states, the GOP runs both legislative houses, as they do in Washington. The GOP now runs more things political across the country than at any time in nine decades.

Just because Hillary won more votes - most from just two major cities that were contested - in an election that was between two extremely flawed individuals does not change that nature of the electorate.

You can't see the forest for the trees.

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Spencer, McIniss, whoever, the white supremacists are just kind of like faceless cockroaches coming out of the woodwork.

Did JJC condemn the guy? Or Spencer? I mean, tonally, there's not even a "This guy is a total cuck, but hey, this is bad, guys." Just a straight up condemnation of the left.

I don't know who Spencer or McIniss is. Never heard of there names before two weeks ago.

Nor do I care. The college left accuses everyone they don't like as being nazi's and threatens violence against them. It's disgusting and wrong.

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It's as simple as this: dehumanizing another human being, for whatever reason, should be a crime. Period. And since it's unfortunately not a crime in America, then they should be blocked from public venues, including social media. But if those private organizations refuse to silence their hate, then it's the right of people to shut them down through protest or even violence, if necessary.

I love how the right wing is claiming to be the victims here. How rich is that? The people making the conscious choice of  victimizing others for their innate identities are whining about being victims because "the left isn't letting me degrade, endanger, humiliate, and spread hate towards others." Go to hell you sick freaks.

Liberals dehumanize conservatives all the time.

You just did it in this post. Every post in your history is so hateful and vile.

Give me examples - real examples - where these speakers are advocating the things you accused them of. And before you do, note that wanting secure borders is not racist. Being prolife is not sexist.

And if you can - I condemn it and and still don't think they should be silenced.

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You've done all of this to me several times today. Congrats.

You can't defend this blatant brown-shirting and you know it. That's why you are getting so angry and personal. It's what humans often due when they can't argue their case - personal attacks.

Bye now.

[JJC]

It's as simple as this: dehumanizing another human being, for whatever reason, should be a crime. Period. And since it's unfortunately not a crime in America, then they should be blocked from public venues, including social media. But if those private organizations refuse to silence their hate, then it's the right of people to shut them down through protest or even violence, if necessary.

Fascist.

[JJC]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

As a conservative, yes.

And I would relish defeating them in the arena of ideas, because I am confident in what I believe and understand these issues thoroughly.

Even taking out the moral perspective of hurting peoples I don't like (and in my view are clearly fascist), strategically I understand that attacking them would hurt my cause.

[JJC]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

As a conservative, yes.

And I would relish defeating them in the arena of ideas, because I am confident in what I believe and understand these issues thoroughly.

Even taking out the moral perspective of hurting peoples I don't like (and in my view are clearly fascist), strategically I understand that attacking them would hurt my cause.

Yeah I just said that at the same time as you. But I think you would be better served in condemning the people on your side who are as bad as the SJW people. You shouldn't just focus on your anger on the Left.  

This is what makes moderate/conservative (ex?)  Republicans like me feel uneasy about it. (You can call us RINO, you can call us whatever) but this kind of rhetorical strategy isn't something that helps me embrace the alt-right.

I'm not 'alt-right', and I don't believe that there is some huge alt-right movement. To me, the 'alt-right' is nothing but a collection of over-the-top internet memes.

As for condemning people - like I said, I don't even know who this guy is nor do I care. It's the silencing of decent - which is such a huge problem on campuses - that I am criticizing.

And yes, if right wing people do this then I condemn it. But let's be honest here, there's only one side who is routinely rioting like this right now. Part of the left's problem is that they politicize everything, no matter how mundane. I personally believe that this ultra politicization is due to a lack of religious beliefs among the left.

Some might not like it, but humans are naturally spiritual. We're aware of our mortality and want to think that our lives mean something. For most people, that desire is met through religion. But for those who don't believe in God, far too often that gets substituted for government and politics.

Hence this kind of routine cultist response. To them, these speakers are not just expressing opinions they think are wrong. They are committing heresy. And in the righteous utopia there is no room for sinners.

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McInnes is utter garbage, but he's obviously not a Nazi, as he married a non white woman and has mixed kids.

Racist men often marry out of race to assert their superiority. This is not evidence.

It is evidence that he is not a Nazi. To a Nazi him mixing his blood with a non white is treason to his race and his ancestors.

White supremacist then.

Why would a White Supremacist have a non-white wife?  This isn't "I have a black friend" this is someone choosing to spend the rest of their lives with someone of another race.

His wife is East Asian. To most white supremacists, East Asians (especially Japanese) are well respected and their women considered viable sexual partners and sometimes championed as better than Western white women because they "aren't corrupted by feminism." So they supposedly make better, more obedient and submissive wives, just like White women used to when they "knew their place."

Cool story bro.

[JJC]

So, would Branch Trumpidians be OK with socialists, Marxists, and even radical SJW talking uninterrupted? I don't remember them being very OK with the idea.

Literally the top post on R/The_Donald

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The problem for the left is that they think everything they disagree with is 'words and actions that threaten vulnerable people'. Because politics is their religion, the opposition is evil by default, and must be purged.

And it's never justified to assault someone unless they assault you first. Words are not physical assaults.

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Then stop proving him right. Trump can't control your actions. STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE. Stop threatening people and businesses because you don't like their politics. 'But he said something that made me mad!' is no effing excuse. Jesus, how do you think we conservatives feel with the liberal dominated media? Let me tell you, being routinely insulted with 'racist/bigot/homophobe/nazi/extremist/stupid/evil, repeat. repeat. repeat. repeat. isn't fun.

How do you think it feels to turn on the tube in the morning and find some a-hole accusing you, you're friends, family, and neighbors of waging a 'war on women' because you believe in the sanctity of life? You don't think that's not spreading hatred?

How do you think conservatives in college feel right now? They're probably worried about their physical safety. I can guarantee you that liberals - who love portraying themselves as victims - certainly don't. Ask yourself, who has the power here?

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This guy was beaten by these scumbags for being a Trump supporter.


Absolute filth. And those on this thread who support and/or excuse this behavior, are not only scumbags, but are both fascist and domestic terrorists.



No one on the lefts condemns this garbage. Howard Dean even congratulated these scumbags. These people will one day reap what they sow.

You have it backward. This is you and your ilk reaping what you've sown. This is the sort of "political discourse" the American NazisRepublicans have encouraged for years. This is EXACTLY what Pussygrabber supporters voted for. They're just upset at finding themselves on the receiving end. We are all lucky it hasn't come to gunfire yet, the way your Dear Leader Pussygrabber wanted:


The American NazisRepublicans want to spend years advocating political violence and trashing democracy? Fine. But when they start reaping the whirlwind, all I'm going to do is point at the hypocrisy and revel in the schadenfreude, because my sympathy for them is dead and gone.

Like what. Give me examples. All you do all day is throw out wild and wide sweeping accusations.

Give me examples. Put up or shut up.

'No, this is your fault because you're nazis!'.

You have the debating skills of a 4th grader. Stop projecting your signature onto the world.

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The problem for the left is that they think everything they disagree with is 'words and actions that threaten vulnerable people'. Because politics is their religion, the opposition is evil by default, and must be purged.

And it's never justified to assault someone unless they assault you first. Words are not physical assaults.

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Then stop proving him right. Trump can't control your actions. STOP ATTACKING PEOPLE. Stop threatening people and businesses because you don't like their politics. 'But he said something that made me mad!' is no effing excuse. Jesus, how do you think we conservatives feel with the liberal dominated media? Let me tell you, being routinely insulted with 'racist/bigot/homophobe/nazi/extremist/stupid/evil, repeat. repeat. repeat. repeat. isn't fun.

How do you think it feels to turn on the tube in the morning and find some a-hole accusing you, you're friends, family, and neighbors of waging a 'war on women' because you believe in the sanctity of life? You don't think that's not spreading hatred?

How do you think conservatives in college feel right now? They're probably worried about their physical safety. I can guarantee you that liberals - who love portraying themselves as victims - certainly don't. Ask yourself, who has the power here?

It is very sad that there was violence. McInnes is shi* but doesn't deserve assault, people can't take the law into their own hands. Personally I pity people like Milo & McInnes, they & their supporters have a miserable life & the world has gone past them & their are stuck with dirty extremist prejudices in a way they no longer fit into the world today. But you can't beat people up - Where does this stop
? Who decides if Person X is Nazi?

And there is nothing to be insulted with Extremist/White Supremacist etc terms by the media because that is truth - You can't really be insulted by what you are, can you?

You just accused these people of being all sorts of evil. Why?
Why are they evil - specifically. You can't say 'they are against [insert special interest group here]'.

Why?

Why are they evil? What evil thing did they say or believe to make them evil?

Why?

[JJC]

This guy was beaten by these scumbags for being a Trump supporter.


Absolute filth. And those on this thread who support and/or excuse this behavior, are not only scumbags, but are both fascist and domestic terrorists.



No one on the lefts condemns this garbage. Howard Dean even congratulated these scumbags. These people will one day reap what they sow.

You have it backward. This is you and your ilk reaping what you've sown. This is the sort of "political discourse" the American NazisRepublicans have encouraged for years. This is EXACTLY what Pussygrabber supporters voted for. They're just upset at finding themselves on the receiving end. We are all lucky it hasn't come to gunfire yet, the way your Dear Leader Pussygrabber wanted:

The American NazisRepublicans want to spend years advocating political violence and trashing democracy? Fine. But when they start reaping the whirlwind, all I'm going to do is point at the hypocrisy and revel in the schadenfreude, because my sympathy for them is dead and gone.

And the right did nothing.  We have our fair share of crazies on the right, I won't deny that.  But the "second amendment people" did nothing.

Because Clinton didn't win.

Remember all of those riots after Obama won? I didn't. Remember all those months of property destruction and violence? Me neither.

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This guy was beaten by these scumbags for being a Trump supporter.


Absolute filth. And those on this thread who support and/or excuse this behavior, are not only scumbags, but are both fascist and domestic terrorists.



No one on the lefts condemns this garbage. Howard Dean even congratulated these scumbags. These people will one day reap what they sow.

You have it backward. This is you and your ilk reaping what you've sown. This is the sort of "political discourse" the American NazisRepublicans have encouraged for years. This is EXACTLY what Pussygrabber supporters voted for. They're just upset at finding themselves on the receiving end. We are all lucky it hasn't come to gunfire yet, the way your Dear Leader Pussygrabber wanted:


The American NazisRepublicans want to spend years advocating political violence and trashing democracy? Fine. But when they start reaping the whirlwind, all I'm going to do is point at the hypocrisy and revel in the schadenfreude, because my sympathy for them is dead and gone.

Like what. Give me examples. All you do all day is throw out wild and wide sweeping accusations.

Give me examples. Put up or shut up.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2010/10/11/progressive-hunter/171471
http://www.redstate.com/diary/Erick/2009/03/31/at-what-point-do-people-revolt/
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/report/glenn-beck-irresponsible-and-indifferent-to-the-violent-consequences-of-his-dangerous-rhetoric/
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2009/03/11/newsbusters-sheppard-defends-limbaugh-by-pointi/148176
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2016/03/is_donald_trump_inciting_violence_he_might_be.html
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/01/13/republican-violence-government.html
http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/republican-rhetoric-right-wing-terror
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/10/how_the_right_plays_with_murder_the_anti_abortion_movements_cycle_of_violence/
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/88893-right-wing-death-threats-rise-republicans-should-condemn-rush-limbaugh
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/virgil-peck-kansas-gop-legislator-advocates-shooting-illegal-immigrants-feral-hogs-article-1.121111
https://www.rt.com/usa/americans-revolution-armed-percent-738/
http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201009070003
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/05/31/tea-party-calls-senator-susan-collins-assassination.html
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/6/30/1104771/-The-Mississippi-State-Tea-Party-backs-violent-overthrow-of-the-U-S-Government
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2010/10/29/20101021-GOP-congressional-candidate-Stephen-Broden-says-7895
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/ann-coulter-second-conservative-today-to-advocate-violence-against-liberals/news/2012/08/30/47847
http://aattp.org/frightening-armed-tea-party-terrorists-posing-cowboys-threaten-gun-safety-group/
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/08/trumps-assassination-fantasy-is-part-of-a-long-history/

And that's just a sampling of the open calls for political violence in the last decade, with only a summary of pretend-president Pussygrabber's own advocacy on the subject.

Most of those supposed 'supporting violence' articles are common public positions that get twisted six way to sunday to claim they are violent.

I'm sorry, but protesting an over reaching government is not 'advocating violence' like half your links say. And this has nothing to do with the issue at hand.

Which is orchestrated, political violence against people you don't like. They are not any of the disgusting things you say about them. You claim they are to justify your violence against them.

But even if they were,

It still doesn't justify violence against them. You just want to physically hurt people you don't like.

Read every line in your signature. By definition this is what is happening on college campuses.

It's fascism. Period.