Fundamentalist sect linked to child torture

[ScottM]

Hey ScottM, just wanted to say this.....when I see R-MS, I have certain instant impressions that are certainly quite negative.

But I've really enjoyed your commentary, and I'm quite pleased there are sane conservatives from your state

Well, believe me, most people around here have the same feelings about, say, New England liberals.

I always try to be thoughtful with my comments and beliefs, and I can respect anyone in whom I see the same thing - even if I don't agree with them.

Yeah I can imagine...didn't intend any disrespect with that comment.

No offense taken. I'm sorry if my reply implied any. I try not to get angry or upset over things anyway.

I was just trying to point out that I understand your meaning. The suggestion of a Vermont liberal brings up the same feelings in me. (BTW, no offense intended to any Vermont liberals.)

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

(BTW, no offense intended to any Vermont liberals.)

It's understandable about the Vermont liberals, Scott (welcome by the way), my vision of a VT liberal is this:

[ScottM]

(BTW, no offense intended to any Vermont liberals.)

It's understandable about the Vermont liberals, Scott (welcome by the way), my vision of a VT liberal is this:

The exact same picture that comes to my mind. Maybe not fair since he's one of the biggest nuts I've ever seen on a national stage...

[Ban my account ffs!]

What a sad state of affairs.  They should be charged with murder, child abuse, and torture.  Then throw them in solitary confinement for 23 hours per day for the rest of their natural lives (with adequate medical care to prolong their lives, of course)... they'll have plenty of time to practice their faith. 

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Surprise!

[k-onmmunist]

God knows, its stuff like this that makes me wonder why I'm against the death penalty. I wouldn't shed a tear seeing them shot at dawn.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

actually calling it a "sect" makes it sound like it some isolated group of people, when actually this is diffused through different churches and denominations. hopefully critics of this deadly fad within these churches will be able to stop these evil stupid ideas. unfortunately fundamentalists always seem to come up with new variations on the same awful theme.

[Хahar 🤔]

Further reason why I hate religion.

Thank you for that insightful remark.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

How exactly did the girl die (what caused her to stop breathing)?  I didn't see that.  If possible, push for 2nd degree murder, but if it was because of "punishment," they may not be able to get 2nd degree.  In that case, push for voluntary manslaughter and child abuse charges.

Here it is:

According to the authorities, forceful and numerous whippings, apparently with plumbing line, may have caused tissue breakdown so massive that Lydia's vital organs could no longer function.

So basically they beat her so much and so severely that her body just couldn't cope with it and it shut down.

As far as charging manslaughter instead of murder, I don't think that's going to fly. While they may not have intended to kill the girl, it was a foreseeable consequence and their torment of her was planned and systematic. I stress the word torment - this was torture as it went far beyond ordinary child abuse. This is a serious crime, and if a death is caused in the commission of another serious crime it can be legally considered murder.

Yeah, I didn't see that - definitely go for 2nd degree murder.