MI: AtlasIntel: Trump leads Biden

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Also, what kind of Common Core Math gives Biden a +8 advantage over Bernie in the primary, but has Biden losing to Trump and Bernie beating Trump? I can't think of how you could even cherry pick a sample to get results like that.

It is a stupid statement & can be easily explained by 1 or more of 3 things -

1. More GOP people cross over to Sanders - Unlikely. No Democrat has won 15-20% of the GOP vote in Decades & neither will Sanders or Biden.
2. Independents go for Sanders & Trump over Biden - Highly Likely. Even in 2020, in 70-80% of the states, Sanders has won more independents than Biden. This Sanders to Trump among Independents in the Mid-West was a common factor in 2016.
3. Many Sanders' supporters stay home - Also highly likely. 90K people voted Democratic downballot but chose not to vote for Clinton over Trump. Biden has no constituency & has the default electability vote while Sanders has a hardcore committed base & there will be a section of Bernie or Bust people.

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NAFTA Joe will lose the Industrial Midwest.

Yeah, because NAFTA is all voters in the "Industrial Midwest" have ever cared about, as evidenced by the landslide losses of Al Gore, John Kerry, and Barack Obama in MI.

You people learned all the wrong lessons from 2016, and it’s no surprise your candidate is getting crushed even worse than last time.

If that was the case then Hillary Clinton would have been President after winning Michigan, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania. You keep making wrong statements & keep embarrassing statements. The last time a Moderate Democrat supporting NAFTA ran against Trump, they lost Michigan. Secondly, Bush, Mccain, Romney were Free Traders & not Trump railing against NAFTA. There was so major difference in terms of trade.

That assertion stays until Trump is beaten by a similar Democrat.