Should it be legal to kill poachers if necessary to save endangered animals?

[TDAS04]

Yes.

[Antonio the Sixth]

My position is well-known.

[Santander]

If the endangered animals are observant Christians or Jews, yes.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Should it be legal to kill abortionists if necessary to save endangered fetuses?

[Higgs]

No, of course not.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Should it be legal to kill abortionists if necessary to save endangered fetuses?

Are significantly more debatable question.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd say I'm utterly horrified by these results, but after the whole debacle of a few weeks ago I've been expecting them.

[Figueira]

I don't think it's a very good idea. Aside from the fact that killing people is bad in general, most poachers aren't doing that because they're mustache-twirling evil; they do it because some outside forces are telling them to. Fighting those outside forces is a much more effective strategy, and it doesn't risk losing the hearts and minds (I hate that phrase but I think it kind of fits here) of local people.

And to be clear, I'm about as pro-saving-endangered-animals as it gets.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If they start shooting at you as you try to stop them.

[SWE]

It's acceptable to use lethal force to prevent murder, yes.

[RINO Tom]

I'd say I'm utterly horrified by these results, but after the whole debacle of a few weeks ago I've been expecting them.

Good.  Always good to at least be aware how fringe your positions are, even if they're very hot takes!

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd say I'm utterly horrified by these results, but after the whole debacle of a few weeks ago I've been expecting them.

Good.  Always good to at least be aware how fringe your positions are, even if they're very hot takes!

I guess respect for human life is now a "hot take".

[RINO Tom]

I'd say I'm utterly horrified by these results, but after the whole debacle of a few weeks ago I've been expecting them.

Good.  Always good to at least be aware how fringe your positions are, even if they're very hot takes!

I guess respect for human life is now a "hot take".

Oh, maybe I misunderstood your view then?  Sorry!

I would consider condoning murder in the name of ANY animal to be ludicrous.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd say I'm utterly horrified by these results, but after the whole debacle of a few weeks ago I've been expecting them.

Good.  Always good to at least be aware how fringe your positions are, even if they're very hot takes!

I guess respect for human life is now a "hot take".

Oh, maybe I misunderstood your view then?  Sorry!

I would consider condoning murder in the name of ANY animal to be ludicrous.

I got relentlessly mocked in another thread because I value human life so highly as to take my stance to its logical conclusion.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

Should it be legal to kill abortionists if necessary to save endangered fetuses?

endangered (adjective):  animals or plants that may soon not exist because there are very few now alive.

I don't consider human beings plants nor animals.  Maybe that is just my Christian culture.  And even if I were for some reason to consider human beings plants or animals there are certainly not "very few now alive".  Quite the opposite really.

If there were 330 million alligators in the United States I wouldn't have them on the endangered species list.  I would actually open a restaurant and cook them and serve them as food.  But to reiterate I do not consider human beings animals nor plants.  And to answer your next question cooking and eating human beings is wrong.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

If they start shooting at you as you try to stop them.

Yeah.  I'm wondering how people think most poachers die?

Law enforcement shows up and gets fired upon by poachers with assault style rifles and the authorities return fire.

Do people think poachers talk elephants to death?  They show up with artillery.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

If they start shooting at you as you try to stop them.

This; otherwise, obviously not.

[Figueira]

Saying that humans aren't animals is pretty ridiculous.

Also there are more life forms than just animals and plants.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Tony, have you ever considered that poachers hunting endangered species are not equivalent to people who illegally hunt in Western countries? These are massive multi-million dollar organized crime syndicates, who often even are linked to even more vile organizations, groups like the Lord's Resistance Army and Boko Haram have funded themselves with illegal animal part trading, who are obviously going to be quite heavily armed, (you seriously think people shoot elephants with the same type of guns people use to shoot deer?) and also engage in kidnapping, human trafficking and murdering civilian activists against them. You think stopping them is as simple as when a park ranger issuing a citation to some guy who's hunting without a license? If the park rangers or military run into some guys with fully automatic weapons who refuse to give them up and will shoot back if you try to take action against them what the hell are you supposed to do?

[RI]

Of course not.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Tony, have you ever considered that poachers hunting endangered species are not equivalent to people who illegally hunt in Western countries? These are massive multi-million dollar organized crime syndicates, who often even are linked to even more vile organizations, groups like the Lord's Resistance Army and Boko Haram have funded themselves with illegal animal part trading, who are obviously going to be quite heavily armed, (you seriously think people shoot elephants with the same type of guns people use to shoot deer?) and also engage in kidnapping, human trafficking and murdering civilian activists against them. You think stopping them is as simple as when a park ranger issuing a citation to some guy who's hunting without a license? If the park rangers or military run into some guys with fully automatic weapons who refuse to give them up and will shoot back if you try to take action against them what the hell are you supposed to do?

If a person is about to kill another person and the only way to prevent it is to kill the former, then yes, it can and should be done. That's the one and only case where killing can be morally justified.