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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2019, 10:23:37 PM »

This makes sense, if you assume that she's like the majority of Trump supporters in thinking that Trump is God.
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2019, 10:25:40 PM »


I can't help but wonder what rock Sarah Sanders sits under.

She's only 36 years old, so maybe that's part of her problem. Too young. She looks much older than that, and notice she never seems to smile. She probably hates her job.

She is a disillusioned dupe.

Oh wow, look, a leftist leveling sexist criticisms against a Republican woman.

When will it end folks?
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2019, 10:28:46 PM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2019, 11:01:12 PM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2019, 11:39:02 PM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2019, 11:43:14 PM »

This makes sense, if you assume that she's like the majority of Trump supporters in thinking that Trump is God.

I doubt she actually believes this stuff. Like most in the upper echelons of Evangelicalism, she knows just enough about Christianity to cynically exploit it - and that’s exactly what she’s doing.
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« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2019, 12:01:20 AM »
« Edited: January 31, 2019, 12:13:59 AM by Del Tachi »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't. 

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?   
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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2019, 12:52:09 AM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't. 

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?   

When you only do it in order to put up a smokescreen for a toxic waste dump of a Presidency, your criticism lacks legitimacy. (As, in fact, the entire Republican party does these days, on almost any issue.)
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« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2019, 01:14:39 AM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position.  

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't.  

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?    

Sarah Sanders has frequently and brazenly lied on numerous occasions (often contradicting the President himself), repeated debunked claims, and overall is the spokeswoman for a corrupt presidential administration so pardon me if I don't have too many positive things to say about her. If anyone wants to attack male members of Trump's administration (or anyone) based on appearance, they can go ahead and do so, and they often do. Trump himself, for example, is frequently mocked for his ridiculous hairstyle. Not that it matters anyway, because critiquing appearance is ultimately nothing more than an ad hominem attack meant to distract from actual substantive policy discussion. This is true regardless if it is a man or a woman.

In the standards of fairness though, I'll just say that I don't have any more of a problem with liberal women (or men) being criticised over appearance than I do with conservative women (or men).
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« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2019, 01:32:54 AM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't. 

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?   

Yet many Republicans were totally OK with a guy talking about grabbing women by the pussy.
Just "calling out the double standards."
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« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2019, 07:40:51 AM »

I mean if she meant that God wanted to show how much of a joke a Trump presidency would be then I would agree.

If thats god's idea of a laugh he's got a dark sense of humour
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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2019, 08:08:06 AM »

Hilary's ethics left her open to Kremlin meddling via Wikileaks. But, come 2021, Trump will be out of office.
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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2019, 08:31:44 AM »

It's true of course.
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« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2019, 10:09:22 AM »

Vladmir Putin is God?? I don't think so!
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2019, 12:05:38 PM »

When you only do it in order to put up a smokescreen for a toxic waste dump of a Presidency, your criticism lacks legitimacy. (As, in fact, the entire Republican party does these days, on almost any issue.)

When have I put up a smokescreen?  I've been perfectly willing to criticize the administration and the people who work for it.  There's plenty of legitimate criticism of SHS to be made, but when your first criticism is to talk about her appearance (like Hermit did, thus beginning this whole snafu) then it's a sexist criticism.

Yet many Republicans were totally OK with a guy talking about grabbing women by the pussy.
Just "calling out the double standards."

When have I ever defended Trump's comments?

And, yes, I would argue it's important to call out the double standard when the left crusades as champions of female equality and empowerment.  If liberal media and pundits didn't constantly bemoan conservatives as "sexist pigs", I could be way more forgiving in this instance.

Sarah Sanders has frequently and brazenly lied on numerous occasions (often contradicting the President himself), repeated debunked claims, and overall is the spokeswoman for a corrupt presidential administration so pardon me if I don't have too many positive things to say about her. If anyone wants to attack male members of Trump's administration (or anyone) based on appearance, they can go ahead and do so, and they often do. Trump himself, for example, is frequently mocked for his ridiculous hairstyle. Not that it matters anyway, because critiquing appearance is ultimately nothing more than an ad hominem attack meant to distract from actual substantive policy discussion. This is true regardless if it is a man or a woman.

In the standards of fairness though, I'll just say that I don't have any more of a problem with liberal women (or men) being criticised over appearance than I do with conservative women (or men).

Your post is mostly correct, and I'm responding specifically to reactions like Hermit's that immediately dig-into SHS' appearance rather than her performance.  I think there's a lot of credible criticism to be made of how she's performed in the position and how the White House has interacted with media in a broader sense.  I will disagree that Trump's appearance is utilized as an attack against him in the same way it is against SHS; discussions of Trump's are never an immediate response, and never in a way to imply that he's unhappy or unappealing (more like he's just a buffoon). 
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« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2019, 05:41:41 PM »

I always find people who make this claim interesting. Does that also mean that God wanted Obama to be President?

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I don't know if God anointed Trump to be President, or Obama, for that matter.  But he has certainly allowed both of these men to serve as President.

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We are to honor Trump as we were to honor Obama and Bush and Clinton, etc.

God is not a respecter of persons.  He didn't go down a checklist of issue positions and said, "Gee, Candidate X lines up best with the Christian Coalition Voter Guide!".  Each party is ungodly in its own ways.
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« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2019, 07:52:47 PM »

Facts dont care about your feelings...LMAO
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« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2019, 07:55:15 PM »

What all this talk of appearance shaming and whatnot comes down to is that Huckabee Sanders is a hideous person on the inside. That's what matters.
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« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2019, 04:22:39 PM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't. 

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?   

Yet many Republicans were totally OK with a guy talking about grabbing women by the pussy.
Just "calling out the double standards."

I'm not OK with Trump doing this, but it was done in secret, as a private citizen, brought to light by an opportunist who still had the tape. 

Lots of people aren't OK with Hillary Clinton conducting a "Nuts and Sluts" campaign to discredit Bill Clinton's accusers, but voted for her anyway.

Elections in America are, pretty much, a binary choice.  Voters ultimately choose a candidate.  That a voter chooses a candidate does not mean that they endorse everything that candidate has done.  One can vote third party if one truly believes that either of the two likely outcomes will be equally bad, if in different ways, but few people really believe that; this is one reason why third parties do poorly in a winner-take-all electoral system.
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« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2019, 05:08:40 PM »

It's not sexist to say that Sanders looks very angry most of the time, because she does. There are Republican men that don't look pleasant or look older than they really are (like Stephen Miller).

No.  It's very sexist to call the White House Press Secretary ugly when that kind of criticism would never be levied against a man serving in the same position. 

Why are women in powerful positions only able to be judged based on their appearance?

She wasn't called ugly, and anyone who dislikes the Press Secretary (myself included) has a hell of a lot of things to judge her for other than appearance. You're just engaging in the same type of annoying "sexist" smearing and identity politics found in the Democratic Party and it's embarrassing

If there are credible ways to criticize her that don't include her appearance, then please do so.  To say she "looks old" and "never smiles" is sexist.  Are any male members of Trump's administration attacked in the same way?  Stephen Miller, for instance, certainly isn't. 

Professional women have worked long and hard to be judged based on something other than appearances.  Let's avoid the obvious low-hanging fruit and judge them the same way we judge professional men.

This is a legitimate issue, and it's important to call-out the double standards liberal pundits and media employ when discussing SHS (or Kellyanne Conway, Betsy DeVos, and other conservative women).  Remember when LA Times columnist David Horsey said she looked like a "chunky soccer mom"?  Or Chelsea Handler calling her a "harlot"?  Or Brian Karem asked if she had ever been a personal victim of sexual assault?  When has similar criticism ever been unfairly applied towards men?   

Yet many Republicans were totally OK with a guy talking about grabbing women by the pussy.
Just "calling out the double standards."

I'm not OK with Trump doing this, but it was done in secret, as a private citizen, brought to light by an opportunist who still had the tape. 

Lots of people aren't OK with Hillary Clinton conducting a "Nuts and Sluts" campaign to discredit Bill Clinton's accusers, but voted for her anyway.

Elections in America are, pretty much, a binary choice.  Voters ultimately choose a candidate.  That a voter chooses a candidate does not mean that they endorse everything that candidate has done.  One can vote third party if one truly believes that either of the two likely outcomes will be equally bad, if in different ways, but few people really believe that; this is one reason why third parties do poorly in a winner-take-all electoral system.
Conducting a "nuns and sluts" campaign to discredit accusers was FAR FAR more socially acceptable in the 90's comparatively than saying you just start kissing women and grab them by the p___y in 2005. One was bad in the 90s and one was asolutely horrible in 2005.

You know this though, like everybody else does. Sexual assault shouldn't be taken so lightly.
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