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Reaganfan
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« on: March 10, 2004, 05:25:55 PM »

After a landslide victory in 2008 against Clinton/Breaux , President Rudy Giuliani enjoys 70-93% approval ratings for a good solid time. Democrats still have lost the House and Senate, and want to get a Democrat in the White House. It does not look good though. Giuliani launces his Re-election campaign while holding 86% ratings. The contenders to the Democratic nomination are:

Senator Evan Bayh (IN)
Governor Brad Henry (OK)
Governor Bob Wise (WV)
Senator Joe Biden (DE)
Senator Patty Murray (WA)
Senator John Edwards (NC)

In Iowa, Bayh wins first place, Biden second, and Edwards third. Patty Murray drops out that night.

New Hampshire brings Edwards in first, Biden second, and Henry third.

By Super Tuesday, only Bayh, Biden, and Edwards are left. Edwards and Biden are almost tied with Bayh being well below. Soon, Bayh drops out, but wins three stright primaries! Talks of an Edwards-Bayh ticket are widespread like how Kerry-Edwards was in 2004. (Kerry chose Bill Richardson and lost to Bush/Cheney) Biden pulls out the nomination in a tight race against Edwards. Polls show Biden would beat Giuliani 51 to 49%. In two months, President Giuliani gets a major lead over Senator Biden at 60 to 40%. Giuliani decides to keep Vice President Rice on his ticket after talk of dropping her for rising star Mike Huckabee. Joe Biden chooses Governor Jim Doyle of Wisconsin as his running mate. In the debates, Giuliani wins all three. In the VP debates, it is a general tie with Rice a little higher. On election night, Biden recieves 200 votes to Giuliani's 338. Giuliani is re-elected 44th President of the United States. What does 2016 hold?

















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Reaganfan
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2004, 09:07:38 PM »


Anybody else here see Harold Ford as a real future star of the party?... I think the guy may well go all the way... by 2012, 2016 or even 2020 I think it very likely we may have a president Ford...from my perspective he may be the most exciting of the young Dem politicians to have emerged in recent time... GO Harold!


Yes, I actually have a Edwards/ford Administration taking hold in 2008.

So you expect Bush to win again?
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2004, 05:23:13 PM »

Giuliani would win NY.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2004, 04:32:35 PM »

If Giuliani is president in 2008, he will not be out of the light.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2004, 06:28:55 PM »

How does this sound? In 2008 either:
Giuliani/Rice
Giuliani/McCain
McCain/Rice
McCain/Giuliani
McCain/Huckabee
Huckabee/McCain

Which one sounds best?
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2004, 08:02:35 PM »

Giul;ianik said he will run in 2006 against Hillary in which case he could run as Senator Giuliani. If he did not get the seat he could still run, and maybe win as Former Mayor Giuliani.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2004, 08:00:46 PM »

How does this sound:

2008: John McCain pulls out the nomination by a hair against Norm Coleman.

Hillary Clinton loses the nomination by a hair to Ed Rendell.

Rendell chooses Mark Warner to be his VP pick. McCain chooses Bill Owens as his VP pick.

Who wins... You know me....

McCain: 500
Rendell: 38

2012: President McCain declines a re-election bid due to his age, and Vice President Owens runs against Mark Warner. Owens chooses Bill Frist as his running mate while Warner chooses John Edwards as his running mate. Owens/Frist win over Warner/Edwards in a partial landslide victory.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 09:21:11 PM »

Wait a second.
41. Bush/Quayle
42. Clinton/Gore
43. Bush/Cheney
44. It will not be a socialist, Bush won't be the last GOP Prez. It will be Giuliani, McCain, Edwards, or Bayh.
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2004, 12:13:05 AM »

Possible candidates for 2008:
John Breaux       Mark Warner
John Edwards    Condoleeza Rice
John McCain       Donald Rumsfeld
Rudy Giuliani      Colin Powell
Bill Frist              Ed Rendell
Bill Owens          Jim Talent
Chuck Hagel      Dirk Kempthorne
Hillary Clinton    Norm Coleman
Dan Quayle       Mike Huckabee
Bill Richardson   Jeb Bush

Anyone I left out?
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Reaganfan
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2004, 10:49:49 AM »

Okay:
Possible candidates for 2008:
John Breaux       Mark Warner
John Edwards    Condoleeza Rice
John McCain       Donald Rumsfeld
Rudy Giuliani      Colin Powell
Bill Frist              Ed Rendell
Bill Owens          Jim Talent
Chuck Hagel      Dirk Kempthorne        
Hillary Clinton    Norm Coleman
Dan Quayle       Mike Huckabee
Bill Richardson   Jeb Bush
 ADDED IN:
Rick Santourum   Mitt Romney
Tim Pawlenty      Tom Vilsack
Tom Daschle       Bob Kerrey
Dick Durbin         Bill Bradley  
Evan Bayh          Alan Keyes

AND INDEPENDENT:
Jesse Ventura

I like the guy, even though I vote republican, I might have to support a "President Ventura" ticket. Although he is not in talks, he said a few weeks ago, "WE NEED A WRESTLER IN THE WHIT EHOUSE IN 2008!"





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