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« Reply #400 on: November 23, 2020, 07:39:29 PM »

"bipartisan"

Trying to flip the senate

Lmao media 10/10.

They’ll stop when Daines unveils his new bipartisan bill

https://riponadvance.com/stories/daines-prepares-bipartisan-bill-to-provide-pandemic-relief-to-small-businesses-local-lenders/
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« Reply #401 on: November 23, 2020, 07:46:30 PM »


What would we do without leaders like Senator Daines? The people of Montana are truly blessed.
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« Reply #402 on: November 23, 2020, 10:34:55 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory
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« Reply #403 on: November 24, 2020, 08:51:23 AM »

The Democrats won't win these Seats - Period!

Biden has realized this already by thus far nominating "Safe Picks" to his Cabinet who can sail through the Senate without too much Republican Opposition. That tells me that he doesn't believe that they will win both Seats.

Even if the Democrats win both seats, they'll have a very narrow control of the Senate. Biden has better things to do with his time than push potentially controversial Cabinet picks through even a marginally Democratic Senate.
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« Reply #404 on: November 24, 2020, 10:26:22 AM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory

DC is a bit more complicated for various reasons... But I think it's crazy that there is any debate regarding Puerto Rico's right to statehood.  For a long time now, Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion (long before it became such a politicized issue).
 
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« Reply #405 on: November 24, 2020, 11:13:44 AM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory

DC is a bit more complicated for various reasons... But I think it's crazy that there is any debate regarding Puerto Rico's right to statehood.  For a long time now, Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion (long before it became such a politicized issue).
 


The fact that it's a US territory and not a state is so ridiculous. It has every right to be a state.
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« Reply #406 on: November 24, 2020, 12:09:37 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory

DC is a bit more complicated for various reasons... But I think it's crazy that there is any debate regarding Puerto Rico's right to statehood.  For a long time now, Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion (long before it became such a politicized issue).
 



Except that Puerto Ricans are very divided on the issue, you have those who want independance, those who want to keep the statu quo and those who want to become a state.

At the moment no opinion is majoritarian so the situation is gridlocked
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« Reply #407 on: November 24, 2020, 12:34:01 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory

DC is a bit more complicated for various reasons... But I think it's crazy that there is any debate regarding Puerto Rico's right to statehood.  For a long time now, Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion (long before it became such a politicized issue).
 



Except that Puerto Ricans are very divided on the issue, you have those who want independance, those who want to keep the statu quo and those who want to become a state.

At the moment no opinion is majoritarian so the situation is gridlocked

The option for statehood in PR is majoritarian twice in a row, although not supermajoritarian.
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« Reply #408 on: November 24, 2020, 01:19:28 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory

DC is a bit more complicated for various reasons... But I think it's crazy that there is any debate regarding Puerto Rico's right to statehood.  For a long time now, Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion (long before it became such a politicized issue).
 



Except that Puerto Ricans are very divided on the issue, you have those who want independance, those who want to keep the statu quo and those who want to become a state.

At the moment no opinion is majoritarian so the situation is gridlocked

52-48 is a majority. That should be good enough, but one party doesn't want to create a state that might vote Democratic, and that is literally the entire reason given by the current president and senate majority leader.

Never mind that it would probably be a swing-ish state, especially with Trump's gains with Latinos, and it's not clear whether the anti-statehood people (who are mostly Democratic) would be able to drop all of that opposition, get candidates together, and mobilize their voters. It's quite plausible that Puerto Rico sends two Republicans to the Senate at first and eventually settles into a blue-leaning purple state later.
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« Reply #409 on: November 24, 2020, 02:17:36 PM »

Democrats really need to figure out a message for these runoffs.

Republicans have it easy, they can just say that the elites will defund the police and murder your children if Democrats win this runoffs.

Democrats need to figure out a way to message that effectively energizes the base without stooping as low as the GOP in their attacks. Frankly, the average voters, the voters need to turnout to win don't know who Mitch McConnel, and even if they do, they don't really understand how the system works; what's at stakes in these runoffs.

If Democrats continue to go at the pace their going; spending tons of money on ads that don't convince anyone of anything , they'll lose. This is about turnout and they actively NEED to engage as many voters as possible; get people aware, register people to vote, and so on. As someone else pointed out elsewhere, Republican turnout in GA was actually higher than Democratic turnout despite Biden winning GA. They have the votes to win. They just need to activate them. We only have until December 7th to register voters though; after that, we have to turn out as many of them as possible.
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« Reply #410 on: November 24, 2020, 02:21:57 PM »

Early voting info is up on electproject for the runoff. Can't put a link, so I'll post a broken one.

h ttps://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/GA_RO.html
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« Reply #411 on: November 24, 2020, 04:19:55 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory
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« Reply #412 on: November 24, 2020, 05:04:59 PM »

The Democrats won't win these Seats - Period!

Biden has realized this already by thus far nominating "Safe Picks" to his Cabinet who can sail through the Senate without too much Republican Opposition. That tells me that he doesn't believe that they will win both Seats.

I still believe that if Republicans win one or both runoffs in Georgia, no nominee of his will get a hearing in the Senate.
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« Reply #413 on: November 24, 2020, 05:06:33 PM »

If D's assume the majority DURBIN will be Chairman of Judiciary and usher in DC Statehood, victory


This but ironically
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« Reply #414 on: November 24, 2020, 05:42:37 PM »

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-democrats-door-to-door-canvassing-senate-races

This is good news.
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« Reply #415 on: November 24, 2020, 08:57:52 PM »

The Democrats won't win these Seats - Period!

Biden has realized this already by thus far nominating "Safe Picks" to his Cabinet who can sail through the Senate without too much Republican Opposition. That tells me that he doesn't believe that they will win both Seats.

I still believe that if Republicans win one or both runoffs in Georgia, no nominee of his will get a hearing in the Senate.
This is quite stupid on your behalf. Of Course guys like Anthony Blinken will get a Hearing no matter what.
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« Reply #416 on: November 24, 2020, 09:06:13 PM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

It will come to the White Suburban Voters particularly White Suburban Women who grew sour on Trump in the Atlanta Suburbs like Cobb County and voted for Biden on Nov 3. Many are Republicans and I can't imagine that they would give the Biden Administration a Bank Check for everything.

Also, as Chuck Todd alluded to during the NBC Election Night Coverage the Democratic Candidates need at least 30 % of the White Vote to win Statewide. Bill Clinton got 32 % (WON), Biden got excatly 30 % (WON), Clinton got 21 % (LOST), Abrams got 25 (LOST). I don't Obama 2008 & 2012 Numbers for now.
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« Reply #417 on: November 24, 2020, 09:11:09 PM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

Are they? It seems like they're pretty deflated and irreparably split on whether or not the whole 2020 election was fake.
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« Reply #418 on: November 24, 2020, 09:14:05 PM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

Are they? It seems like they're pretty deflated and irreparably split on whether or not the whole 2020 election was fake.

There's a good chunk of Rs who are supercharged and will show up for the runoff in their last attempt to prevent a D trifecta, but there are also probably some who are dissapointed Trump lost and don't feel the need to vote now. The inverse can be said for Democrats; some are really excited Biden won and want to give him the trifecta, while others are just happy to have knocked Trump out. The real question is which group is more relevant on either side.
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« Reply #419 on: November 24, 2020, 09:17:55 PM »

The Democrats won't win these Seats - Period!

Biden has realized this already by thus far nominating "Safe Picks" to his Cabinet who can sail through the Senate without too much Republican Opposition. That tells me that he doesn't believe that they will win both Seats.

I still believe that if Republicans win one or both runoffs in Georgia, no nominee of his will get a hearing in the Senate.

Then Biden pulls a Trump and puts in place some hack to serve as acting secretary. I think the Republicans would lose that game so they'll let "reasonable" appointees through.
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« Reply #420 on: November 24, 2020, 09:19:04 PM »

The Democrats won't win these Seats - Period!

Biden has realized this already by thus far nominating "Safe Picks" to his Cabinet who can sail through the Senate without too much Republican Opposition. That tells me that he doesn't believe that they will win both Seats.

I still believe that if Republicans win one or both runoffs in Georgia, no nominee of his will get a hearing in the Senate.

Then Biden pulls a Trump and puts in place some hack to serve as acting secretary. I think the Republicans would lose that game so they'll let "reasonable" appointees through.

Wouldn't it be nuts if he got Pelosi to help him dissolve Congress and recess appoint his cabinet? That would be funny I think
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« Reply #421 on: November 24, 2020, 10:19:36 PM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

Are they? It seems like they're pretty deflated and irreparably split on whether or not the whole 2020 election was fake.
No, they ain't. They know what's at stake!
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« Reply #422 on: November 24, 2020, 10:32:35 PM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

Are they? It seems like they're pretty deflated and irreparably split on whether or not the whole 2020 election was fake.
No, they ain't. They know what's at stake!

You do. But what about all the Republicans who think the election is rigged and there's no point in voting? And conversely, what about all the Republican who are mortified by Trump's refusal to concede and by Lqeffler/Perdue's enabling of it?

The Democratic path is much more straightforward - just get a good turnout from a united bunch. Republicans have to thread a needle through a bunch of wide, diverse and in some cases diametrically opposed groups who are either despondent about Trump's loss, or about Trump's reaction to his loss.
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« Reply #423 on: November 25, 2020, 03:18:34 AM »

It may not matter. Republicans are supercharged now and contrary to what every liberal is saying here African American Turnout will not be deciding factor in my view.

Are they? It seems like they're pretty deflated and irreparably split on whether or not the whole 2020 election was fake.
No, they ain't. They know what's at stake!
And conversely, what about all the Republican who are mortified by Trump's refusal to concede and by Lqeffler/Perdue's enabling of it?

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« Reply #424 on: November 25, 2020, 03:25:40 AM »

The good thing about Filibuster reform is that you can apply it to certain types of legislation not to everything Schumer can eliminate the filibuster to DC and PR statehood but not apply to other pieces of legislation like weed legalization or Green New Deal, that's why Ds must win both races,😆😆😃
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