Biden infrastructure/tax increase megathread

[Virginiá]

https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1397256316574445574?s=21

Corporatists showing their true colors.

What pisses me off about this is the seemingly indifferent attitude towards actually making investments the country desperately needs and, more importantly, paying for it in ways that we should be doing anyway. Unless they have a better, more viable way to pay for it that isn't politically toxic or totally unrealistic, they should stop complaining and stop bending over backwards to protect rich people and corporations, who have taken advantage of the system for way too long as it is.

[Virginiá]

dems struggling to pass INFRASTRUCTURE of all things.....should pour so much cold water on any hope that america will be getting universal healthcare in the near future.

I mean, even in the past, many big programs like that only happened because of large Democratic majorities and/or bipartisan support. The second it became clear the Democrats were either going to have no majority or just a bare one, any hopes of major healthcare reform basically died right then and there.

Parties can do more now with less seats because of polarization, but there are still limits.

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Warner should have been aggressively primaried last year. The warning signs were there but he's pretty much at Feinstein 2018 levels of "more harmful long-term than an actual Republican".

He didn't get enough of a warnering in 2014.

[Ⓐnarchy in the ☭☭☭P!]

https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1397256316574445574?s=21

Corporatists showing their true colors.

What pisses me off about this is the seemingly indifferent attitude towards actually making investments the country desperately needs and, more importantly, paying for it in ways that we should be doing anyway. Unless they have a better, more viable way to pay for it that isn't politically toxic or totally unrealistic, they should stop complaining and stop bending over backwards to protect rich people and corporations, who have taken advantage of the system for way too long as it is.

Think about it from the perspective of Warner or any other swing senator. You can vote to raise your own taxes for no personal benefit or you can sell that vote to the highest bidder and become the richest man in the Senate.

Republicans have to at least pretend to represent their voters because if they're too soft they'll face a serious primary challenge, and even if they win there are enough Republicans willing to vote third party even in extremely close and decisive elections that they can't just do whatever they want. Whereas Democrats have an inexplicable fear of throwing out incumbents who go rogue and take bribes instead of actually holding their feet to the fire. If there's no risk to focusing entirely on personal advancement then of course politicians will take advantage.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I'm a bit confused about the capital gains tax increase. Would it create a tax cliff since it only applies to people whose income is over $1,000,000? Google searches aren't coming up with much detail.

I would presume this proposal adds a fourth bracket to the capital gains tax rates that starts at $1,000,000. In which case, it's not a tax cliff.

[YE]

https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo/status/1397256316574445574?s=21

Corporatists showing their true colors.

What pisses me off about this is the seemingly indifferent attitude towards actually making investments the country desperately needs and, more importantly, paying for it in ways that we should be doing anyway. Unless they have a better, more viable way to pay for it that isn't politically toxic or totally unrealistic, they should stop complaining and stop bending over backwards to protect rich people and corporations, who have taken advantage of the system for way too long as it is.

Think about it from the perspective of Warner or any other swing senator. You can vote to raise your own taxes for no personal benefit or you can sell that vote to the highest bidder and become the richest man in the Senate.

Republicans have to at least pretend to represent their voters because if they're too soft they'll face a serious primary challenge, and even if they win there are enough Republicans willing to vote third party even in extremely close and decisive elections that they can't just do whatever they want. Whereas Democrats have an inexplicable fear of throwing out incumbents who go rogue and take bribes instead of actually holding their feet to the fire. If there's no risk to focusing entirely on personal advancement then of course politicians will take advantage.

A Senator especially from the so called working class party isn’t suppose to be that shellfish in a functioning society. It’s not like Warner isn’t already wealthy.

[Frodo]

Republicans are at war with those trying to fight human-induced climate change -and it is reflected in their latest infrastructure proposal:

Republican infrastructure counteroffer slashes Biden’s electric vehicle and climate spending

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden must realize he only has 50 votes not 60 and after the 2022 Election if we net seats he can alter the infrastructure bill, most of these changes aren't gonna take effect immediately, deal with climate change

The Biden Administration did spend 2T on testing tracing and vaccinations in Stimulus bill and we still have Covid

It's not like this is the last opportunity he can to pass this bill or an infrastructure, 1T is enough for now, with a 30 T deficit

[indietraveler]

Democrats should counter one last time by meeting halfway on tax increases. After that they need to go it alone, and not just for infrastructure. If this can't pass there's unlikely anything else that will come close.

[VAR]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

[soundchaser]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

I doubt it will placate Senate Republicans - and Biden is smart enough to know that. This is a show of good faith before taking the nuclear option.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

I doubt it will placate Senate Republicans - and Biden is smart enough to know that. This is a show of good faith before taking the nuclear option.

It's a reconciliation package, there is no nuclear option the Dems could just do it. He's stuck with this because Joe Manchin is a self centered jackass

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

I doubt it will placate Senate Republicans - and Biden is smart enough to know that. This is a show of good faith before taking the nuclear option.

It's a reconciliation package, there is no nuclear option the Dems could just do it. He's stuck with this because Joe Manchin is a self centered jackass

You know HR 1 especially can be axed by SCOTUS in Judicial Review even it gets passed the Filibuster, this same R Crt allowed Gerrymandered districts especially Alito and Thomas and Gorsuch for much of the 2010s anyways, the Crt isn't gonna allow neutral Commission to draw districts in every state, that's a pipe dream by Pelosi, and DC Statehood would be very contraversial especially to Kavanaugh and ACB, they aren't safe bets either to DC Statehood

[Ferguson97]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

If I had to pick a concession, it would be this, but still not happy about it.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden can't raise the Corporate tax in the middle of a Pandemic, Trump said this the day he left office

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Why can't Schumer just tell Manchin hells strip him of his chairmanship on the energy committee if he doesn't start voting like an actual Democrat. Start being mean to these people!

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Why can't Schumer just tell Manchin hells strip him of his chairmanship on the energy committee if he doesn't start voting like an actual Democrat. Start being mean to these people!

If you do that Manchin will become a Republican, he is the one along with Sinema giving the D's their Majority

If he doesn't become an R he will become an independent leaning R, he is the most Vulnerable D in 2024 anyways and would definitely RETIRE

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

In his State of the Union, Biden asked a rhetorical question "Can democracy still deliver?" and he answered this week by saying "Nope". Even his initial bill made piddling efforts on climate change. Any compromise that could pass would be trivial.

Looks like we will have to wait until some really brutal natural disaster before people wake up.

[Dereich]

Why can't Schumer just tell Manchin hells strip him of his chairmanship on the energy committee if he doesn't start voting like an actual Democrat. Start being mean to these people!

Assume Manchin says no and does NOT become a Republican. Where does that leave Schumer? Either backing down or going forward with the threat shows the world that he's completely powerless to make legislation pass. And then he'd still have to deal with Manchin, minus any leverage going forward. Plus it makes Manchin's seat even more vulnerable in 2024 if he chooses to run for reelection.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Joe Manchin is a giant piece of crap

https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/1400572523985747976?s=20


No actual objections, just strait up ‘I won’t vote for anything Republicans don’t’

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Why can't Schumer just tell Manchin hells strip him of his chairmanship on the energy committee if he doesn't start voting like an actual Democrat. Start being mean to these people!

Assume Manchin says no and does NOT become a Republican. Where does that leave Schumer? Either backing down or going forward with the threat shows the world that he's completely powerless to make legislation pass. And then he'd still have to deal with Manchin, minus any leverage going forward. Plus it makes Manchin's seat even more vulnerable in 2024 if he chooses to run for reelection.

Yes if you make Joe Manchin angry he might withhold all that meaningful cooperation your getting from him. I’m very scared

[RussFeingoldWasRobbed]

Joe Manchin is a giant piece of crap

https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/1400572523985747976?s=20


No actual objections, just strait up ‘I won’t vote for anything Republicans don’t’

Strip. His. Chairmanship

[emailking]

I mean his position is basically the same as Biden's, plus it looks like there might be a deal so I don't see why he'd say otherwise now.

[Frodo]

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1400469381361147906

If I had to pick a concession, it would be this, but still not happy about it.

I will understand if Biden caves in on raising the gas tax.  At least it makes sense to do so, as distasteful as it may be as a Democrat -the infrastructure package is too important to let fail.  It is a pity we ended up where we did with Manchin and Sinema calling the shots, even with the last-minute chance Senate victories in Georgia, but it is what it is.  In exchange, congressional Republicans should raise the new spending on infrastructure closer to where Biden wants them, especially with regards to electric vehicle charging stations.  

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“A lot of members are happy Joe Man
. “Seven or eight of them stand behind him.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-manchin-deeply-disappointed-in-gop-and-prepared-to-do-absolutely-nothing?ref=wrap

Manchin sucks, but there's no need to blame just him for everything that Democrats don't want to do.