UK General Discussion: Rishecession

[brucejoel99]

For a laugh:

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1567908064220569600

[brucejoel99]

Don't have much nice to say so I won't say anything. Hopefully Prince Charles will be an awful king, discrediting the monarchy and leading to its dissolution.

Hopefully he'll get away with being the based Labour King that the British House of Cards promised us he'd be.

[brucejoel99]

All due respect to the Canada thread, but this news isn't best placed in there:

https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1567920409525514240

[brucejoel99]

The Queen is dead.

God Save the King.

[brucejoel99]

"Over here, just behind the camera, you'll see my son William, who at this rate will be your 3rd Monarch by this time tomorrow:"

https://twitter.com/abc/status/1568302101771522051

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1575526882853810192

[brucejoel99]

So, if Truss is the Kim Campbell in this hilarious scenario, who would the Jean Charest and Elsie Wayne be?

Presumably Rishi & [INSERT Rando Tory Backbencher HERE]

[brucejoel99]

Absolutely astonishing to recall that when Keir was elected leader, Labour was 23 pts. behind in the polls; today, they're up 33 pts. That's a swing of 50%!

Things can only get f**king better.

[brucejoel99]

Wonder if there is a way via strategic voting to end up with LD as the opposition party.

Seeing the SNP as the official opposition would be hilarious too. Canada 1993

Bloc Caledonia

It's just completely surreal to see the pace of this. Obviously I've seen leaders manage to completely wreck their countries' economies (and their own parties' standing in the process), but I don't recall anything happening close to this fast. Campbell at least had like three months somewhat holding the line before the nosedive. Liz Truss became Prime Minister this month!

To think, it could've been even quicker had government business not come to a rather screeching halt for 11 days.

[brucejoel99]

Scene: Truss shakes hands with Queen.

Scratch

'Yup. That's me. You might be wondering how I got here...'

*"Baba O'Riley" starts playing*

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/theshovel/status/1575389855873638400

[brucejoel99]

Lol at the Palace now going to war with Truss.

What’s happened? Struggling to find anything.

I think he’s referring to Truss telling the King not to deliver a speech at COP27.

And the Palace is fighting back in the papers, hence going to war:

https://twitter.com/andrew_adonis/status/1576310424890331137
Not to say that I called it, but…

Don't have much nice to say so I won't say anything. Hopefully Prince Charles will be an awful king, discrediting the monarchy and leading to its dissolution.

Hopefully he'll get away with being the based Labour King that the British House of Cards promised us he'd be.

Now, you might very well think that Liz Truss is no Francis Urquhart, but I couldn't possibly comment.

[brucejoel99]

It's like they want to replicate Thursday's YouGov poll at the next GE:

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/1576262633921351680

[brucejoel99]

Sage Brandon:

https://twitter.com/markamesexiled/status/1576266286564511744

[brucejoel99]

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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1576941908806418432

[brucejoel99]

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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1576941908806418432

How could the parliamentary Tories appoint a PM though? Wouldn't have to totally reform the Party bylaws? Or is that easier than I'm thinking it is?

Currently, they can't, as the requirement that (at least) the top-2 candidates go through to a rank-&-file membership vote is a provision of the Tory constitution, which is hard af to amend (1/3rd of senior party activists & 1/3rd of MPs each hold a de-facto veto), so the only way rn for a leadership contest to not go through to the membership will be if it's uncontested.

[brucejoel99]

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https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1576941908806418432

How could the parliamentary Tories appoint a PM though? Wouldn't have to totally reform the Party bylaws? Or is that easier than I'm thinking it is?

Currently, they can't, as the requirement that (at least) the top-2 candidates go through to a rank-&-file membership vote is a provision of the Tory constitution, which is hard af to amend (1/3rd of senior party activists & 1/3rd of MPs each hold a de-facto veto), so the only way rn for a leadership contest to not go through to the membership will be if it's uncontested.

The 1922 Committee were able to set a nomination threshold, though, so perhaps they just set it so high that they think exactly one candidate will be able to make it.

If the system were the same as in July, I fear that you know who would be favoured to make a comeback.  However, at the moment Sunak is second favourite (after Starmer) to be next PM with the bookies.

The 1922 had the power to set a nomination threshold for its own internal purpose of selecting who the top-2 are, but they still had to select (at least) those 2 because the Tory constitution mandates "a choice of candidates."

So, say Truss is forced to step down, & 356/357 Tory MPs support Rishi to calm the markets, but that 1 leftover MP is BoJo mounting a comeback campaign; even then, it'd still be "the duty of the 1922 Committee to present to the Party, as soon as reasonably practicable, a choice of candidates for election as Leader."

[brucejoel99]

The very funny thing is that the wheels keep falling off- Nadine Dorries calling for an election, Kwasi u-turning on his budget date again after u-turning and the cabinet in open revolt over the welfare cuts.

This is mental and would have been weird even for the last few months of Boris… I don’t think 1994-97 was this bad??

2022-24 appears to be the UK finally getting the 1995-97 that would've happened if Redwood could hold Major below 215.

[brucejoel99]

Just to be clear, if over 2/3 of the Conservative party favored some consensus choice for PM, could they conspire to have that MP make the top two along with a controlled second choice who could immediately withdraw like Leadsom did in 2016?

Oh, the rules definitely enable them to do that, yeah.

[brucejoel99]

https://twitter.com/SoozUK/status/1577626722136199168

[brucejoel99]

You would think these people are deliberately trying to throw the next election.

The only sane conclusion at this point is that she's legitimately still a Lib Dem & is their ultimate anti-Tory sleeper agent.

[brucejoel99]

The Times (Shipman) reporting that Graham Brady isn't inclined to allow a 1922 rule change permitting a VoNC in Truss' first 12 months unless the rebels number half of the parliamentary party, a figure currently equating to 178 MPs.

[brucejoel99]

Knock-on-wood but the 1st deselection of a Labour MP in 12 yrs. is imminent in Ilford South:

https://twitter.com/lmharpin/status/1579566881429942272

[brucejoel99]

Knock-on-wood but the 1st deselection of a Labour MP in 12 yrs. is imminent in Ilford South:

https://twitter.com/lmharpin/status/1579566881429942272

There it is:

https://twitter.com/rewearmouth/status/1579584401704243201
Sam Tarry, you may remember, is rather infamously *not* the Shadow Transport Secretary.

[brucejoel99]

The Tories may die, but that's a sacrifice that Liz Truss is willing to make:

https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1579586149999181824