Labour Leadership Election, 2007

[© tweed]

I support McDonnell, although he seems kinda 'weak'.  But I don't know sh**t.

[merseysider]

But I don't know sh**t.

That much is obvious from your choice of candidate.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

With Meacher it now seems unlikely that McDonnell will make the ballot.

[Verily]

But I don't know sh**t.

That much is obvious from your choice of candidate.

What's wrong with McDonnell? He sounds to me like true Labour, not New Labour. (Not that I'd support him over your average Lib Dem, of course.)

[True Democrat]

Who is the most New Labour person?

[The Man From G.O.P.]

I voted Milburn, a great slogan for the election year would be:


Vote 20__! The election with the two most similar looking leaders since we took the wigs off.


Catchy I know

[Verily]

Who is the most New Labour person?

David Miliband, but he's not included in the poll. He's probably the second most likely after Brown to win the leadership, though the likelihood of him winning is still below 5%.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Interestingly enough he's Ralph Miliband (who was a well known Marxist academic)'s son.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

But I don't know sh**t.

That much is obvious from your choice of candidate.

What's wrong with McDonnell? He sounds to me like true Labour, not New Labour. (Not that I'd support him over your average Lib Dem, of course.)

McDonnell isn't any "truer" to what the Labour Party was in 1900, 1918 or 1945 (or any other significant date in party history) than the current incumbent of the leadership position. He's New Left, basically, and rose to prominance on the GLC.

[minionofmidas]

So, who's the beardy weirdy candidate? I don't know who to support.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

So, who's the beardy weirdy candidate?

There isn't one

There is Michael Meacher though; who is weird (and very left-wing) but, sadly, lacks a beard:

[minionofmidas]

So, who's the beardy weirdy candidate?

There isn't one

There is Michael Meacher though; who is weird (and very left-wing) but, sadly, lacks a beard:

He seems to be an alcoholic to put Charlie Kennedy to shame, judging by his arteries. What does he represent?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He seems to be an alcoholic to put Charlie Kennedy to shame, judging by his arteries.

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Oldham West & Royton; represented the area since 1970.

[Serenity Now]

But I don't know sh**t.

That much is obvious from your choice of candidate.

What's wrong with McDonnell? He sounds to me like true Labour, not New Labour. (Not that I'd support him over your average Lib Dem, of course.)

McDonnell isn't any "truer" to what the Labour Party was in 1900, 1918 or 1945 (or any other significant date in party history) than the current incumbent of the leadership position. He's New Left, basically, and rose to prominance on the GLC.

True, would you say anyone really counts as an "Old Left" candidate, maaybe meacher, and I wouldn't say he's "very" left-wing.. What would that make McDonnell?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

True, would you say anyone really counts as an "Old Left" candidate, maaybe meacher, and I wouldn't say he's "very" left-wing..

Meacher is a bit of both really; he's still a Bennite really. Obviously "very" is inappropriate within a Labour context, outside it, probably not.

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Very left wing within a Labour context

[Serenity Now]

True, would you say anyone really counts as an "Old Left" candidate, maaybe meacher, and I wouldn't say he's "very" left-wing..

Meacher is a bit of both really; he's still a Bennite really. Obviously "very" is inappropriate within a Labour context, outside it, probably not.

Ah I wasn't thinking of the context.. I just remembered that Meacher used to be in the Socialist Campaign group..