GA-SEN 2020 Class II Megathread (Perdue inc.)

[7,052,770]

GA Republicans have run pretty crappy campaigns this year and I hope they get their act together in the runoff election.

Loeffler and Collins are trying to out-Trump one another in a way that is seriously turning off moderate and even moderately conservative suburbanites. I hope whichever of the two emerges from the first round tones down their rhetoric for the runoff if they care at all about winning.

As for Perdue, he seems to be giving off the impression that he's a career bureaucrat with skeletons in the closest. His Kamala gaffe was also entirely unnecessary and gave the impression that he was mocking her name.

Loeffler will be stuck if she tries to pivot at this point. She has been so transparent about pandering to the far right in order to stave off her primary challenge, that no amount of "toning it down" can help her appeal to moderates.  She is honestly one of the most pathetic politicians I have ever seen in my life. She clearly will do and say anything to get elected. It's crazy how she started her term as traditional, low profile, conservative Senator and then immediately pivoted to employing racist dogwhistles and embracing unhinged conspiracies the minute Doug Collins entered the race. I get it. A politician needs to win in order to accomplish anything, and all politicians pander. But the fact that she did a damn near complete 180 and is now courting conspiracy theorists and racists by using god awful, divisive rhetoric is just a shame. Doug Collins is a bigot too, but at least he seems to genuinely believe what he says. Stacey Abrams royally screwed up by chosing not to enter this race. She could have beaten either one, especially Loeffler, quite easily.

QAnon Kelly has become by #1 least favorite Senator, and that's an accomplishment.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

With respect to runoffs - do only valid votes count towards setting the 50% threshold? There's still a write-in section despite no write-in candidates having filed for this race and I'd be interested to know if votes for Zell Miller/Elmo etc. were considered part of the total - if not, only Shane Hazel can cause a runoff.

[Rookie Yinzer]

gave the impression that he was mocking her name.

Impression? That's exactly what he was doing lol

[QAnonKelly]

So if this goes to runoff, does Perdue technically have to be appointed for a few days because the runoff is after the new Senate term begins?

From what I've gathered, the seat will just be vacant for a few days.

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So if this goes to runoff, does Perdue technically have to be appointed for a few days because the runoff is after the new Senate term begins?

From what I've gathered, the seat will just be vacant for a few days.

Would he lose all his seniority even if he's re-elected? Sometimes people make an argument for re-electing because of seniority. It'd be funny if he couldn't use that argument.

[Indy Texas]

So if this goes to runoff, does Perdue technically have to be appointed for a few days because the runoff is after the new Senate term begins?

From what I've gathered, the seat will just be vacant for a few days.

Did that happen when Saxby Chambliss had his runoff in 2008?

Why would they schedule the runoff so late?

[Nutmeg]

So if this goes to runoff, does Perdue technically have to be appointed for a few days because the runoff is after the new Senate term begins?

From what I've gathered, the seat will just be vacant for a few days.

Did that happen when Saxby Chambliss had his runoff in 2008?

No, because that election was on December 2.

[7,052,770]

Imagine if Georgia adopted instant runoff voting and we could know the results of both seats on Election Night. What a waste of time and money to string everyone along for 2 extra months.

[ProgressiveModerate]

Imagine if Georgia adopted instant runoff voting and we could know the results of both seats on Election Night. What a waste of time and money to string everyone along for 2 extra months.

It would suck if we don't know control of the senate until January because of these 2 seats. At least in that case they would get a lot of media which would increase turnout, since Democrats tend to do very poorly in off elections in GA.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Imagine if Georgia adopted instant runoff voting and we could know the results of both seats on Election Night. What a waste of time and money to string everyone along for 2 extra months.

That would usually mean higher turnout in the second round. There's no way the GAGOP would support that.

[7,052,770]

Imagine if Georgia adopted instant runoff voting and we could know the results of both seats on Election Night. What a waste of time and money to string everyone along for 2 extra months.

That would usually mean higher turnout in the second round. There's no way the GAGOP would support that.

Too bad. I guess they'll have to convince people with strong arguments instead of manipulating turnout.

[Stockdale for Veep]

Am I wrong in assuming that runoffs and Jim Crow are related?

[Lief 🗽]

Ossoff is going to win.

https://twitter.com/ossoff/status/1321603398752415746

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Am I wrong in assuming that runoffs and Jim Crow are related?

No, you aren't wrong.

[GALeftist]

Am I wrong in assuming that runoffs and Jim Crow are related?

My dad told me when I was little that, in the deep south, if you notice anything weird in literally any sphere (government, infrastructure, sports, education, culture), the answer is always race. Hasn't been wrong yet.

[Oryxslayer]

Am I wrong in assuming that runoffs and Jim Crow are related?

My dad told me when I was little that, in the deep south, if you notice anything weird in literally any sphere (government, infrastructure, sports, education, culture), the answer is always race. Hasn't been wrong yet.

That said, some of it was put in place after the end of Jim Crow when the south had to bend the new rules to maintain white dixicratic rule, rather than relics of the era when the rules guaranteed racial segregation. 

[Landslide Lyndon]

If Ossoff wins he'd be the youngest senator elected in 40 years (Don Nickles was 32 when he won in 1980).

[wbrocks67]

Objectively speaking, Ossoff blew Perdue away in that debate. Whew.

[ibagli]

So if this goes to runoff, does Perdue technically have to be appointed for a few days because the runoff is after the new Senate term begins?

From what I've gathered, the seat will just be vacant for a few days.

Did that happen when Saxby Chambliss had his runoff in 2008?

Why would they schedule the runoff so late?

The Obama DOJ sued them for holding runoff elections too quickly for compliance with UOCAVA. They need 45 days for that, plus a couple weeks to certify the results (and keep the runoff from being right in the middle of Christmas).

Some runoff jurisdictions send ranked-choice ballots to overseas voters to eliminate the need for a long runoff campaign, but Georgia doesn't.

[riceowl]

Ossoff has been at around 25% chance of winning on 538 always; in the last day it's shot up to the closest race in their tracker.

[Heebie Jeebie]

I have to admit, I've been pretty cool to Ossoff all along--he always seemed more sizzle than steak to me.  But that debate moment...damn.  This guy has a big future ahead of him, regardless of how things turn out on Tuesday.

[Gass3268]

https://twitter.com/NilesGApol/status/1321924177205538816?s=20

[wbrocks67]

LMAO Perdue did so bad in the last one that now hes bailing.

[Farmlands]

I have to admit, I've been pretty cool to Ossoff all along--he always seemed more sizzle than steak to me.  But that debate moment...damn.  This guy has a big future ahead of him, regardless of how things turn out on Tuesday.

I've been down on Ossoff since the 2017 election. Although, I now see some of it may have been undeserved, as there were some factors he couldn't really control, like the nationalization of the race. But after his great performance in the primary and this, I'm quite optimistic about his chances.

[Progressive Pessimist]

I have to admit, I've been pretty cool to Ossoff all along--he always seemed more sizzle than steak to me.  But that debate moment...damn.  This guy has a big future ahead of him, regardless of how things turn out on Tuesday.

I've been down on Ossoff since the 2017 election. Although, I now see some of it may have been undeserved, as there were some factors he couldn't really control, like the nationalization of the race. But after his great performance in the primary and this, I'm quite optimistic about his chances.

My thoughts exactly. And it corresponds with the momentum that all major statewide Democratic candidates seem to be having.