Clinton leaves 9/11 memorial early due to 'overheating' - Update: diagnosed with pneumonia

[ProudModerate2]

Dem hacks, do you honestly believe she should stay in the race?

I fainted at my work once. Should I have been told to quit?

Exactly.
Stop Ljube. People have dizzy spells all the time.
The wording in your comment makes you sound like an a**hole.

[ProudModerate2]

Here is a Fox News clip on it.

It seems you were right all along. She is ill, perhaps terminally.

Ljube, you sound like a complete fool right now.
I hope you don't have anyone ill in your family.
You are almost wanting her to be "terminally" ill.
How would you feel if someone were to say that about one of your family members, like your mom or dad, brother or sister.
Was is wrong with you ?

[ProudModerate2]

Dem hacks, do you honestly believe she should stay in the race?

I fainted at my work once. Should I have been told to quit?

Exactly.
Stop Ljube. People have dizzy spells all the time.
The wording in your comment makes you sound like an a**hole.

ProudModerate, we have no idea what this is, but it doesn't look good.

I know "we" don't know exactly what it is, but YOU sound like a doctor and YOU know what it is.

[ProudModerate2]

Hope she's fine. Not a Hillary fan by any stretch but I don't wish her personal misfortune.

Ljube,
Read the post above.
This is a proper response to someone feeling ill or dizzy.
And not jumping to conclusions and hoping someone all of a sudden is "terminally" ill.
Are you even human ?

[ProudModerate2]

Holy sh**t, the polarization on this forum is getting bad. Why are so many red avatars mad that this thread even exists? Can't report anything that could be negative about her? There's an automatic dismissal and then a turn of subject to Trump. And (some) blue avatars shouldn't be acting like medical consultants either. Jeez.

I somewhat agree with you.
This is a valid thread .... I don't have an issue with its existence and there should be a discussion about it. And yes, I agree that people should not try to deflect and "turn the subject to trump."
I have made this same criticism on the opposite side, when members try to "deny and deflect" from the issue.
But what is really pissing me off, is how some trump supporters are all of a sudden doctors and say that she is obviously "terminally" ill, and they talk like they almost want her to die.
This is disgusting and callous !
And then you lot wonder why America fits you in the "basket of deplorables."

[ProudModerate2]

Hope she's fine. Not a Hillary fan by any stretch but I don't wish her personal misfortune.

Ljube,
Read the post above.
This is a proper response to someone feeling ill or dizzy.
And not jumping to conclusions and hoping someone all of a sudden is "terminally" ill.
Are you even human ?

Now, you are jumping to conclusions. Why do you think I was hoping she is terminally ill?
I said I was worried in another thread. You mocked me there. Several hours later she has another fit. Now you question if I am human.
Unlike you and the other Dem hacks, I am seriously entertaining the thought that she might be so ill that she would be forced to drop out. If that is the case, I believe she should do it sooner, rather than later.
And it’s not all of a sudden. She has been having these health issues for quite some time now. It's just that you and the other blind partisans chose to ignore those episodes. Well, I hope your denial ends today.

Because one of your previous comments was (and I quote) "It seems you were right all along. She is ill, perhaps terminally."
This, and other comments you have made, do not sound like anyone who is "worried" about her health. So don't try backpedal and all-of-a-sudden have a "compassionate" view of this incident.

[ProudModerate2]

Holy sh**t, the polarization on this forum is getting bad. Why are so many red avatars mad that this thread even exists? Can't report anything that could be negative about her? There's an automatic dismissal and then a turn of subject to Trump. And (some) blue avatars shouldn't be acting like medical consultants either. Jeez.

I mean this is definitely thread-worthy, but my beef with a lot of folks in general regarding this is that they seem to forget or possibly don't even realize how hard a 18 month long presidential campaign is, and she's old, with known but managed medical issues. Serving as president will not be as physically taxing. People are acting like every little cough, tick or twitch is the biggest deal in the world and it's annoying as hell to read on a daily basis. She's old, and old people have problems like this. Get over it for christs sakes (not directed at you fyi)

I disagree with you about the strain of being President. Many a President has gone grey prematurely while serving in the White House. It's not an easy gig.
Hillary's health should be an issue in this campaign. It directly impacts whether she can properly do the job. (Blue avatars already know she can't on an ethical level.)

I have news for you Seriously.
Twice now you question Hillary by using the words "morally bankrupt" and "on an ethical level."
There is no way possible that trump wins over Clinton based on morals or ethics.
trump is one of the worst human beings on Earth based on morals, since the 1930/40's when Hitler was spewing hatred and bigotry.

[ProudModerate2]

Dem hacks, do you honestly believe she should stay in the race?

I fainted at my work once. Should I have been told to quit?

I fainted on a football field in 2005 after not eating breakfast and marching a whole pregame show in 100-degree weather and in a hot wool uniform.
Should I be fired from my job?

I had a severe dizzy spell myself. I was probably age 32 and had been working everyday, 7 days per week, about 60 to 70 hours a week. This went on for about 3 weeks straight.
One morning I had just awaken and went directly into the shower and I almost collapsed in the tub. My legs felt weak, like rubber-bands. It was a scary feeling. I ate breakfast and relaxed for about an hour, and I was fine. Went to work, just arrived to my employment slightly late.

More than likely just the same with Hillary. Exhaustion and dehydration. It happens on occasion. I was only 32 and Clinton is much older, so an occasional/rare bout of this is no big deal.
Now if it was happening daily or weekly, then there would obviously be more concern.
There is also a very informative post above of someone who also takes medication for hypothyroid (similar to Hillary, I guess) and the possible side effects to this.

I think people are making too much out of this entire (rare) incident.

[ProudModerate2]

I'm sorry to hear about her having another stroke

She never had a stroke. You are full of the devil and as Maude used to say, God is going to get you for that. Karma can be a real you know what, so it's wise not to make cracks about other people's health. I would not want to be you.

God's gonna get you with a Kodak disk!

Don't pay much attention to ChairmanSanchez. He is obviously one of those trump supporters who would be included in the basket of deplorables.

[ProudModerate2]

In case you were in any doubt about Seriously's (and Ljube's) actual motives in this thread:

It's a whisper campaign about her health. Kind of nasty, but I am not complaining. Make people think that she's unfit to be President.

What a pair of embarrassing deplorables.

Agree.
And of course, Seriously will continue to post bulls**t about her health.
Same with Ljube.

[ProudModerate2]

Hope she gets well soon.  

[ProudModerate2]

Now that it comes out that Clinton had pneumonia, the Republicans look really stupid

I wouldn't say all "Republicans," but more like the trump supporters who are categorized as "deplorables."
And yes .... this would definitely include Seriously and Ljube.

[ProudModerate2]

You guys feel bad yet?

Why would I feel bad?
Pneumonia is a very serious illness for the old and infirm. It takes many a life. She should rest for a few months and get better, preferably until sometime after the election.
P.S. I never believe the Clinton spin machine.

Seriously you are one big scumbag.
You refer to Clinton as "Illary" and you basically hope she is sick and you start saying things like "taking her life."
And with your disgusting attitude towards someone who is ill, and to make fun of them for it, it's disgraceful.
I hate to say it, but its people like you in our society that if you were to suddenly disappear and leave us, you would not be missed and we wouldn't give a damn.

[ProudModerate2]

Now that it comes out that Clinton had pneumonia, the Republicans look really stupid

I wouldn't say all "Republicans," but more like the trump supporters who are categorized as "deplorables."
And yes .... this would definitely include Seriously and Ljube.

We look stupid how exactly? The woman has health issues. The campaign denied it. Despite those denials, she was caught on camera very infirm getting into a van.
I am not sure how the Clinton campaign's actions make Ljube and I "deplorables."
You red avatars fall for this silly Clinton shell game all the time.

You making fun of someone, ANYONE, by calling them childish names like "Illary" is what makes you a "deplorable."
Why in your little brain would you think that it is acceptable to make jokes of someone, ANYONE, when they are ill ?
Actually it makes you, personally, look like an assh**e !
There it is ! Are you happy now ?
Try and defend yourself on making fun or jokes about someone when they are ill. I cant wait to hear your response and defense for this.
(Mods don't delete this. You know Seriously deserves a lashing for his disgusting attitude on this topic.)

[ProudModerate2]

Now that it comes out that Clinton had pneumonia, the Republicans look really stupid

I wouldn't say all "Republicans," but more like the trump supporters who are categorized as "deplorables."
And yes .... this would definitely include Seriously and Ljube.

We look stupid how exactly? The woman has health issues. The campaign denied it. Despite those denials, she was caught on camera very infirm getting into a van.
I am not sure how the Clinton campaign's actions make Ljube and I "deplorables."
You red avatars fall for this silly Clinton shell game all the time.

You making fun of someone, ANYONE, by calling them childish names like "Illary" is what makes you a "deplorable."
Why in your little brain would you think that it is acceptable to make jokes of someone, ANYONE, when they are ill ?
Actually it makes you, personally, look like an assh**e !
There it is ! Are you happy now ?
Try and defend yourself on making fun or jokes about someone when they are ill. I cant wait to hear your response and defense for this.
(Mods don't delete this. You know Seriously deserves a lashing for his disgusting attitude on this topic.)

Ya. I see. Don't worry. I won't report you to the moderator police like you leftists do when you see something you don't like. I don't play that game.
Perhaps if your candidate were candid with the American people and not trying to actively cover up these instances when she is not 100% healthy, you'd get more empathy from me. But that's not going to happen here.
Like everything else the Clintons do, they try to hide from the truth and attack and disparage those that seek to find it.
I do find it ironic that your candidate -- as pneumatic as she was -- was healthy enough to malign good, hard-working conservative Americans on Friday night though.

I see you avoided the question ; no defense.
Which means you agree with my "harsh assessment" of how you portrayed yourself to look like.
How dare you make jokes ("Illary") about ANYONE who is sick.
I asked Ljube this same question : How would you feel if someone were to say that about one of your family members, like your mom or dad, brother or sister ?

[ProudModerate2]

I see you avoided the question ; no defense.
Which means you agree with my "harsh assessment" of how you portrayed yourself to look like.
How dare you make jokes ("Illary") about ANYONE who is sick.
I asked Ljube this same question : How would you feel if someone were to say that about one of your family members, like your mom or dad, brother or sister ?

Is Hillary a relative of yours? If so, I'll think about an apology. And not give you one because of how deceitful your family has been in this whole ordeal.
You "Proud Moderates" had a field day when George W. Bush choked on a pretzel and his father threw up in Japan. So save me your faux outrage. I highly doubt that you cared about how the Bush family felt.
The bottom line is I don't need a defense. Hillary Clinton is a public official and it's politics.

First of all, I didn't ask for an apology. Second, even if you contemplate on giving an apology, you can take your apology and you can shove-it !
Also, this "proud moderate" did not make fun or jokes about Bush choking on a pretzel or his father throwing-up in Japan. So don't try and deflect and point the finger at me for your indiscretions in this thread.

[ProudModerate2]

At this point we're at "It Really Was No Miracle" stage, let's hope that "Ding-Dong! The Witch Is Dead!" comes soon.

Yet another deplorable comes out of the swamp.

[ProudModerate2]

Is there another source to back this up?

[ProudModerate2]

YouTube video of Hillary leaving Chelsea's Apartment.
She is doing fine.

Link : https://youtu.be/m_RhcVXVwws

She will need to take care of herself, until she has fully recovered, but she is almost normal.
All this mis-information that the deplorables (especially Seriously and Ljube) have been spreading about her practically dead, is false.

[ProudModerate2]

If Trump had pneumonia, would we be having the same discussion as now? I highly doubt it.

Actually, I would be asking for him to drop out and be replaced by Kasich.

And you are not doing this now, despite Trump showing obvious signs of severe brain damage?

Obvious to you, but not to me.

Obvious to everyone without that same kind of brain damage.

You are very nasty and without any reason. I have never done anything to offend you.
The moderators should reconsider your status in light of your persistent derogatory posts.

Ljube,
You have been deserving of everything you are getting today.
So don't be a cry-baby about it.
If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[ProudModerate2]

Well, it's true. She has pneumonia and didn't tell the public because she knew she was being held to a ridiculous standard that put her in a catch-22 scenario.

Even Michael Moore called her out on this, given it's obvious this was hid in selfish reasons as you note (It would hurt her in the polls).
Given the fact she's running to be President requires that us voters give all possible scrutiny on her (As well as Trump to be fair). Whether the "Red Avatars" in this thread want to acknowledge it or not, she got overheated in mildly inconvenient weather to the point she had to be manhandled into a vehicle. If she can't handle roughly 90 minutes of sedentary activity in the sun, what is she going to do in the event of a major crisis that forces her to go days without sleep in high intensity situations (See the example of JFK during the Cuban Crisis)?

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Where was this full schedule in August, incidentally? As well, if steadily losing a lead in the polls and having a medical episode is a good week, god help us all if she has a bad one while President.
(For the record, this is my first post here. I've been a long time lurker, but the amount of mental jujitsu attempts in this thread finally got me to make an account.)

Her illness is not permanent.
So why are you talking as if this will be something that will affect her, if she were to become President ?
If it was a severe case of pneumonia, or some other major illness, than I can understand your discomfort with her not being open about the sickness. But I think this whole thing has been blown-up to a point, that she is basically dying (which is obviously ridiculous). She walked out of her daughters apartment (with no help) soon after she went in to rest and was seen by some medical people. Would someone with a severe illness have the strength to do that ?

[ProudModerate2]

So if we don't have a right to know, should the guy taking the video be charged with something?  Invading privacy or some such?  Why not?

Now you are just being stupid.

[ProudModerate2]

Non-terminal ailments don't really need to be disclosed.

I see, pneumonia isn't terminal until you die.  Makes sense.
Neither is pancreatic cancer by that standard.

"Older" people can die from the flu, that is one reason the medical community constantly pushes this group to get vaccinated every year.
Should catching the flu be required to be disclosed to the world everytime ?

[ProudModerate2]

Should catching the flu be required to be disclosed to the world everytime ?

Yes, why not?  For gosh sakes, what in the world would be so bad about the campaign issuing a press release.  Very simply stating, "such and such candidate has the flu and will be easing their campaign schedule for the next few days...we look forward to resuming later in the week...blah blah".  It's not a big deal.

Honestly, what in the world is so awful about truthfulness here?  I just can't understand this mentality of excusing so much secrecy around one of the three most public figures in the world at this point in time.

LOL.

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Is it just me, or has this thread turned and gone off-topic ?