The Romney Administration

[BigVic]

Enjoying this timeline but it looks like with good approval ratings in his 1st term, Romney will be re-elected easily. Clinton will be Mondale/Stevenson 2.0 sadly thanks to a popular President Romney. 

[OSR stands with Israel]

Pre-Convention Polls:

Romney/Portman 429 57%
Clinton/Vilsack 42 27%
Sanders/Kucinich 4 15%


John King : Now just for fun we added both Secretary Clinton and Sanders too see what the race would have looked if he was not in the race


How Polls would have looked like if Sanders didnt run:

Romney/Portman 362 57%
Clinton/Vilsack 136 42%



John King: While it still would have been a pretty large win without Senator Sanders running, Sanders running makes even the safest dem states like California in play. The reason is if we go to California and you see the poll it shows Romney ahead by 3 but by the poll it is clear that Senator Sanders is causing Secretary Clinton to lose even in the safest states. Here is the polls


California:

Romney 43%
Clinton : 40%
Sanders: 16%


As you can see Romney is winning but without Sanders he loses this states by double-digit margins, now in New York it has not affected Clinton as much we can see why from this poll:

New York:

Clinton: 47%
Romney: 42%
Sanders : 10%


Now if You go to Illinois it's a similar story to California:
 

Illionis:

Romney: 47%
Clinton : 41%
Sanders: 11%

[MR DARK BRANDON]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

[MR DARK BRANDON]

But good job.

[OSR stands with Israel]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

Well only reason he is leading so big currently is cause of Bernie’s third party run(look at the state polls and you will see Romney numbers in those states aren’t that impressive it’s just that the democratic vote is divided)


The economy did grow significantly from 2013-2017 in OTL and as an incumbent president he would get credit for it


Thanks to a favorable map in 2012 and 2014 he was able to get the numbers needed in Senate to pass his legislative agenda .


Obama never passed OCare in this timeline so he is able to get his healthcare reform proposal without nearly as much opposition

[MR DARK BRANDON]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

Well only reason he is leading so big currently is cause of Bernie’s third party run(look at the state polls and you will see Romney numbers in those states aren’t that impressive it’s just that the democratic vote is divided)


The economy did grow significantly from 2013-2017 in OTL and as an incumbent president he would get credit for it


Thanks to a favorable map in 2012 and 2014 he was able to get the numbers needed in Senate to pass his legislative agenda .


Obama never passed OCare in this timeline so he is able to get his healthcare reform proposal without nearly as much opposition

Your timeline is good,  however you also seem to be making everything go wrong for the Democrats

[OSR stands with Israel]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

Well only reason he is leading so big currently is cause of Bernie’s third party run(look at the state polls and you will see Romney numbers in those states aren’t that impressive it’s just that the democratic vote is divided)


The economy did grow significantly from 2013-2017 in OTL and as an incumbent president he would get credit for it


Thanks to a favorable map in 2012 and 2014 he was able to get the numbers needed in Senate to pass his legislative agenda .


Obama never passed OCare in this timeline so he is able to get his healthcare reform proposal without nearly as much opposition

Your timeline is good,  however you also seem to be making everything go wrong for the Democrats

Thanks ,

 While things are going terribly for the democrats now ,things will start to get better after this cycle gets better . What is happening to the democrats right now is basically what happens to a party totally lost in the wilderness (Similar thing happened to the non conservative wing of the Democratic Party  from 1980-1986 and GOP from 1960-1966)


 

[America Needs R'hllor]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

I think that, while this TL is definitely rosey for Romney, it's not outside the realms of realism. It's a quality TL, and he's not making Romney an unbeatable Jesus or creepily worships him (unlike, er, another TL on this site does with another politician). You don't see, for example, Republicans making huge gains in the midterms in states like California. You see a rosey TL for Republicans which also happens to be very good, just like many great TLs here are rosey for Democrats.

[Cold War Liberal]

What you are basically making your timeline about is if everything went right for Mitt Romeny. Your timeline lacks realism

I think that, while this TL is definitely rosey for Romney, it's not outside the realms of realism. It's a quality TL, and he's not making Romney an unbeatable Jesus or creepily worships him (unlike, er, another TL on this site does with another politician). You don't see, for example, Republicans making huge gains in the midterms in states like California. You see a rosey TL for Republicans which also happens to be very good, just like many great TLs here are rosey for Democrats.

This. It's an optimistic timeline for Romney, but by no means hackish. Arguably, one of the main reasons to even write a timeline is to create a more optimistic version of history (whatever that means for the poster). This is quite well written, with the exception of some punctuation/grammar. I enjoy reading it even if it's not exactly how I wish history had gone.

[YE]

Yeah I don't mind this timeline. It's kinda interesting to see how Republicans imagine what the political climate would be like if their policies were put into place.

[OSR stands with Israel]

Allies Liberate Mosul in a Fierce Battle , and are on the verge of totally defeating ISIS in Iraq



Wolf Blitzer: We have some breaking news to share and that is that Allied forces have liberated Mosul which was the last major city controlled by ISIS in Iraq and one of the few significant holdouts they had left. Lets bring in one of our correspondents and talk to him about this

CNN Correspondent: This is great news because this means that the Allies are on the verge of totally defeating ISIS soon. With no major cities in Iraq left under ISIS control, along with every insurgency, ISIS has tried to start being squashed means that the Iraq front of this war against ISIS has likely been won. This means the only place they control any areas of significance is in Syria and due to the fact that the Allies will able to use all their resources on the Syrian front of the War, and the Allies destroying ISIS ability to resupply its likely that front of the war will be won soon as well.


Wolf Blitzer: Was this battle similar to Fallujah and Ramadi or was it more similar to Fallujah in 2004 .

Correspondent: It was even more fierce than Fallujah in 2004 because unlike in Fallujah now and Ramadi, Mosul was ISIS's last stand in Iraq and that meant taking the city was going to result in fierce Urban Warfare.


Wolf Blitzer: as you may know part of the reasons the Russians did not veto the UN resolution authorizing the use of force was that it was part of the agreement not to send ground troops to Syria. So since we wont be able to send in ground forces will what was done in Iraq work there

Correspondent: Even though on the Syrian Government the US involvement is only limited to Airstrikes now , it won't be as much of a problem with the Iraq Front won as the US can use all its airpower now to defeat ISIS in Syria. Another thing is many ISIS militants went to Iraq after the US came back in to fight them, and now the amount of ISIS militants in Syria have decreased making it easier for the Allies to defeat them.

[OSR stands with Israel]

2016 DNC: Tom Vilsack and Hillary Clinton Acceptance Speech

Excerpts from Tom Vilsack Speech:



Vilsack: Thank You Thank You , it has been an honor for me to be nominated as this great party's Vice Presidential Nominee, and I accept your nomination(Applause). When I was growing up as a kid my parents would tell me stories about how FDR stood up for the poor , farmers , and working class Americans in General and helped create the great middle class. FDR understood the American economy does well when all Americans regardless of their wealth does well , and through that principle helped our nation get us out of the worst economic crises in history. Now the reason we got into the depression was simple, the Republcans spent the entire 1920s pursusing policies which benefit the very few and due to that its created a huge bubble which eventually crashed(Boos). 80 years later under Bush they did the same thing and that led to the great reccession and now are doing it again.


Now  the President keeps mentioning that  the economy is doing well, but the economy was doing well in the Roaring 20s as well before everything came crashing down as well. Now the nominee has a long history of fighting for the common man and women and she will continue to do that as President(Appalsue). As a friend of Hillary Clinton,  I have seen her drive on many occassions to help create a country where everyone regardless of income , race , gender has a chance to succeed and that is why I am very excited to work with her because I can guarntee you a President who believes in those things will make our country stronger than those who believe that putting the Bush Tax Cuts on Steriods will do(Applause).


She has a long record of walking the walk as well , from getting Children Health Insurance Passed while she was only a first lady to serving our nation well as our secretary of state I dont think anyone can say that she isnt qualified for this job(Applause) . As hopefully your next Vice President I hope to use my experaince as Governor of Iowa and as Agricutlure Secretary to advise her in getting policies pass which help the Average Joe(Applause). Thank You , May God Bless You and May God Bless America.




Excerpts from Hillary Clinton's Accpetance Speech:




Clinton: Thank You , Thank You . Mrs.Chairwomen, delegates, and Democratic Primary Voters I accept your nomination for President of the United States(Applause). It is great being in this great city of Phildelphia where over 240 years ago the great nation of ours was born(Applause). Over these passed 240 years our nation has made tremoundous progress from ending slavery, guarnteeing  everyone regardless of their race or sex the right to vote , ending segregation , creating the world's greatest economy and our nation I am sure will continue to a lot more great things in the future as well(Applause).  The only way to do that though is by reconginzing yes their are still many problems in our nation , as the only way we can make our country better is by fixing the problems it has and the first step do doing that is recognizing those problems.

The President of The United States repeatedly tells us that our economy is stronger than it has been in a long time and ignores the many problems our nation has(Applause). Over the past 4 years , he is correct in that the unemployment rate has dropped but what he forgets to tell you is that many of the jobs people are getting is not as good paying as they used to be . One reason for that is technolgical advancement has made many jobs obselete, but they have also opened up many new opportinuties that werent there before and the President has not put in the investment our economy needs in those new areas. The fact is wit the majorities he has in Congress he should be easily be able to get funding for those types of investments , but the fact that he cant or wont shows one thing: The Republican Party believes that the best way for our coutnry to grow is by implementing the policies that help those at the top and then somehow those gains will trickle down to the rest of us(Boos). Well the history of the past 100 years proves them wrong as their polcies have created economic crises like the Great Depression and the Great Reccession while our policies helped our nation get out of Great Depression and create the great American middle class, and had the greatest economic expansion in history happen in the 1990s(Applause).

As President I promise to you that we will once again return to the policies of FDR, Truman , JFK, and Bill Clinton and not continue down the policies of Herbert Hoover and George W Bush. Now this is not the only issue the President has refused to acknoledge , he has also refused to acknoldge the concerns of Black Lives Matter. While they may be tough facts for us to hear, it is a fact that young African Americans are more likely to be questioned by police , and arrested more for drugs despite the fact that they dont actually use more drugs than Whites do. As a President its our job to fix those inequalities so we can finally say that anyone who lives in this country will be treated equally under the law.


Thank You , may God Bless You and May God Bless America


Polls after DNC:

Romney/Portman 402 57%
Clinton/Vilsack 42 32%
Sanders/Kucinich 3 10%

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2016 RNC: Rob Portman's and Mitt Romney's Acceptance Speech:

Rob Portman's Acceptance Speech:



Romney/Portman 429 60%
Clinton/Vilsack 13 29%
Sanders/Kucinich 3 11%


New York Poll:

Clinton: 45%
Romney: 43%


California Poll:

Romney: 44%
Clinton: 41%
Sanders:15%                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

Kasich in New York?

[Politician]

Looks like a Romneyslide.

[kyc0705]

Kasich in New York?

The fusion tickets are back!

[PRESIDENT STANTON]

progress is too slow as well and that's hell as well😣

[OSR stands with Israel]

Green Party Convention: Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders Acceptance Speech:




Romney/Portman 429 57%
Clinton/Vilsack 13 28%
Sanders/Kucinich 4 15%

[Politician]

We've got a Romneyslide on our hands here.

[OSR stands with Israel]

We've got a Romneyslide on our hands here.

Would you support Bernie’s third party run or would you support Hillary

[America Needs a 13-6 Progressive SCOTUS]

If Bernie tried to pull a 3rd party run in any circumstance, he would not be winning any states, he would not be polling double digits, and he would guarantee himself a loss to a primary challenge in 2018. This is getting really unrealistic.

[YE]

If Bernie tried to pull a 3rd party run in any circumstance, he would not be winning any states, he would not be polling double digits, and he would guarantee himself a loss to a primary challenge in 2018. This is getting really unrealistic.

I disagree. Bernie would attract Ross Perot level support as a 3rd party candidate given his overall popularity and his crossover appeal. The only unrealistic bit is that Bernie Sanders would never run as a 3rd party 

[OSR stands with Israel]

If Bernie tried to pull a 3rd party run in any circumstance, he would not be winning any states, he would not be polling double digits, and he would guarantee himself a loss to a primary challenge in 2018. This is getting really unrealistic.

I disagree. Bernie would attract Ross Perot level support as a 3rd party candidate given his overall popularity and his crossover appeal. The only unrealistic bit is that Bernie Sanders would never run as a 3rd party 

Reason he is doing this is unlike in OTL Hillary has no chance of winning, so his belief is if Hillary loses by a massive landslide, instead of like a 1996 type margin in the electoral college it would force the Democratic Party to take the populist left more seriously.

[YE]

If Bernie tried to pull a 3rd party run in any circumstance, he would not be winning any states, he would not be polling double digits, and he would guarantee himself a loss to a primary challenge in 2018. This is getting really unrealistic.

I disagree. Bernie would attract Ross Perot level support as a 3rd party candidate given his overall popularity and his crossover appeal. The only unrealistic bit is that Bernie Sanders would never run as a 3rd party 

Reason he is doing this is unlike in OTL Hillary has no chance of winning, so his belief is if Hillary loses by a massive landslide, instead of like a 1996 type margin in the electoral college it would force the Democratic Party to take the populist left more seriously.

Given that Bernie Sanders supported Walter Mondale in 1984 when he trailed the entire election, on paper, that wouldn't mesh with Bernie's record, though to be fair, he wasn't in the position to run 3rd party back then. 

[OSR stands with Israel]

Senate and Gubernatorial Seats that could flip:


John King: Despite the fact that it looks like the Democrats are crashing and burning to the worst electoral college defeat since 1984 and worst popular vote in history , they are doing much better in the Senate and Gubernatorial Races. Lets look at the Senate Races first


Colorado: Senator Jane Norton(R) vs Congressman Jared Pois(D) - Lean Republican Hold
Illinois: Senator Mark Kirk(R) vs Congresswomen Tammy Duckworth(D) - Tossup
Indiana: Congressman Tood Young(R) vs Senator Evan Bayh(D) - Tossup
Nevada: State Attorney General Catherine Cortez Mastro(D) vs Congressman Joe Heck(R)- Lean Republican Gain

John King: So If Democrats win both the Tossups they will actually net gain a seat and numerically deny Republicans a filibuster-proof majority. Now lets look the Gubernatorial Races



Gubernatorial Races:

Missouri: State Secretary of State Jason Kander(D) vs Businessman Eric Greitens(R)- Tossup
Montana: Governor Steve Bullock(D) vs Mr.Greg Gianforte(R) - Lean Democratic Hold
North Carolina: Governor Patrick McCrory(R) vs State Attorney General Roy Cooper(D) - Tossup
Vermont: State Secretary of Transportation Sue Minter(D) vs Lieutenant Governor Phil Scott - Tossup
West Virginia: State Senator Jeff Kessler (D) vs Lieutenant Governor Bill Cole(R) - Tossup


John King: While Democrats do need to win 4/5 races for them not lose a seat they are currently leading in Missouri, Montana and North Carolina and Vermont is a Tie so its a possibility. Even West Virginia is close so if they run the table that means they can also net gain a seat in the Gubernatorial Races as well.