ALEA IACTA EST: A Roman Republic Game (Senate Thread)

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The Roman Senate:

Rules:

Welcome to the Roman Senate, gentlemen! Here is were a large part of political debate and interventions should take place, and good efforts fighting in the Senate will come with significant rewards to the players who prove more adept to it. The basic idea is that here motions will be introduced, debated and voted on:

Participation: All Roman players inside the city of Rome can take part on debates as being present there. Roman players who are outside of Rome will still debate and vote the motions, it will be assumed that they are doing so through their supporters or clients (if you want to go overboard and assign a historical Senator to represent you even better, I can provide advice on that). Non-Roman players can send ambassadors to speak to the Senate on a given matter, but the Senate won't be patient with sending ambassadors just to troll (for lack of a better term).

Motions: Every turn I'll introduce at least one NPC motion to get things going, often based on historical proposals that took place. Each Roman player can introduce motion as they please, but please keep them short and simple so as to not get dragged on parliamentary procedure. Votes will be open on motions 48 hours before a turn ends, players can vote by posting here or by private message. Not voting will be considered as abstaining, and not voting on several motions will have serious consecuences.

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Motion N°1:

Introduced by the tribunes M. Coelius and C. Lucilius:

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M. Valerius Messalla Rufus (Consul): Order! No more motions will be accepted at this point. Debate may still continue, but voting is open on the following motions:

Introduced by the tribunes M. Coelius and C. Lucilius:

Motion N°1

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Introduced by senator M. Porcius Cato:

Motion N°2

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Motion N°3

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Introduced by proconsul Cn. Pompeius Magnus:

Motion N°4

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Introduced by senator L. Aurelius Cotta:

Motion N°5

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Introduced by senator P. Clodius Pulcher:

Motion N°6

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Cn. Domitius Calvinus (Consul): Order! The results are as follows:

Motion N°1

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This motion is narrowly passed.

Motion N°2

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

Motion N°3

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

Motion N°4

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

Motion N°5

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This motion is narrowly rejected.

Motion N°6

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This motion is rejected with a strong majority.

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How was Prince Ptolemy’s citizenship rejected??

Player support is a very important factor, but not the sole one.

At this point in history Roman citizenship is still highly priced, to the point in which 40 years ago Rome had to go to war against Italians demanding citizenship, and not even the people of Cisalpine Gaul were granted citizenship until Julius Caesar (in what already was a controversial act). To grant citizenship to the likely heir of a foreign throne (amidst rumors that he might marry inside a Roman family) of a Kingdom so questioned as Egypt in this time period would be offensive and unacceptable to many Senators.

Cato successfully seized on that on what I judged to be an able peformance, and so I ruled it likely that most of the Senate would rather reject the proposal (after alarms were set at the percieved to be dangerous notion of Pompeius marrying into foreign royalty) than accept it.

As you see, the Senate can be fluid and a player can manage to surpass other players in the Senate, but it requires a "perfect storm" so to speak. This seems like the case for me.

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Motion N°7:

Introduced by the consul T. Annius Milo:

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Q. Caecilius Metellus Scipio (Consul): Order! No more motions will be accepted at this point.Voting is open on the following motions:

Introduced by the consul T. Annius Milo:

Motion N°7:

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Introduced by proconsul G. Pompeius Magnus:

Motion N°8:

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Introduced by proconsul G. Pompeius Magnus, on behalf of King Cotys I of Thrace:

Motion N°9:

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Introduced by proconsul G. Pompeius Magnus, on behalf of King Cotys I of Thrace:

Motion N°10:

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Introduced by Proconsul Marcus Licinius Crassus:

Motion N°11:

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T. Annius Milo (Consul): Order! The results are as follows:

Motion N°7:

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This motion is narrowly passed.

Motion N°8:

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This motion is narrowly passed.

Motion N°9:

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

Motion N°10:

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

Motion N°11:

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This motion is passed with a reasonable majority.

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Motion N°12:

Introduced by the consul Q. Caecilius Metellus Scipio:

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Motion N°13:

Introduced by P. Vatinius:

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Introduced by L. Calpurnius Piso:

Motion No. 16:

The Senate calls for 2 legions to be raised from the loyal provinces and to be deployed to Italy. These legions will be placed under the command of someone appointed by the Senate once they are raised.

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Senate voting is open. Debate may also continue. Further motions are not to be accepted.