Guns

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How do people feel regarding gun laws? Personally I am incredibly anti-gun. It would frighten me enormously if Britain relaxed gun laws to the extent that the US has. I think this is one of the main reasons the UK has such a miniscule homicide rate. Perhaps people here would start killing eachother however they don't have the means to do it!! :-)

There are other means to kill someone besides guns! Strangulation, stabbing, freak car accidents, freak accidents of other nature, wrapping them up in wet rawhide and when it dries, it'll crush their bones and their flesh will ooze from their bodies. Many ways! But to list anymore would be, ah, demented.

True, but guns can prove fatal from a distance, but stabbing, stangling etc. has to be done when you are close to the victim.  So, guns are easier to get away with in the world of crime, if you know what I mean.

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By that token, I supposed it would be acceptable for me to kill a spotted owl as long as I made a steak out of it. I also don't believe you get your food from hunting. If you want food, you can look in your freezer.

yeah, and in my freezer you'd find Venison. NOW, your comparison to shooting a 'protected' species to killing a Buck is totally bogus. Deer are not a protected species. Why euthanize or sterilize when people since Biblical Days, [read about Jacob and Esau] have hunted deer. Are you a card carrying member of PETA? I, by the way, would never hunt exotic, or endangered species of any kind. Also, I am from the Upper Penninsula of Michigan. We have laws against shooting deer who's antlers have not grown more than 4 inches from the base of the skull. We have also banned feeding deer in the wild just to fatten them up to shoot them.  We are not barbaric. But, hunting is a way of life here. It does provide for food.

So, do you have to take a 12-inch ruler and measure the antlers?  How exactly do they regulate that?

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executions are so expensive because all o the appeals.  That is why VA and TX have both adopted a system of running the state and federal appeals concurrently.  That dramatically reduces the time that prisoners sit and still gives them their full rights and appeals.

Califonria on the other habnd has what like 300 people on death row and it takes FOREVER to execute someone.

Texas-remember that everyone knows they are tough on crime and so some have said they have thought twice b/c they know Texas will carry it out and not p*ss around like California.

Plus if Guilty these killers do not kill again.  Look at the prisoners that killed a few more once they escaped a few years ago.

The moral of the story-don't wait for somebody to tell their side of the story--light 'em up!!!

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no I said they get ALL OF THERE APPEALS which is how it should be.

But by dragging their feet no one benefits except the killer.

What about the victims rights and their families?  that is always lost in these type discussions.

I am against the death penalty in all cases.  two wrongs doesn't make a right.

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So you would spare Timothy Mcveigh, the DC Snipers and Saddam and Possibly Osama Bin LAden?

Yes.  Make them do community service every day and lock them up at night.

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well that would be a minority opinion to be sure, but you are welcome to it.

Even Dean after pressure said OBL should get the death penalty, but took some waffling for him first.

I know it is a minority opinion, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.  Opposing the death penalty is a minority opinion.

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well that would be a minority opinion to be sure, but you are welcome to it.

Even Dean after pressure said OBL should get the death penalty, but took some waffling for him first.

I know it is a minority opinion, but that doesn't mean it is wrong.  Opposing the death penalty is a minority opinion.

Doesn't make it right either.

You are entitled to your opinion.

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All I have to say, again, is that people should have the right to bear firearms. Gun control is stupid.

Convincing argument...

He is composed of many one-line ultra-conservative un-defended arguments.

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And he wants to run for president?  Haha!!
Imagine PD in a debate.

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And he wants to run for president?  Haha!!
Imagine PD in a debate.

The GOP's answer to Howard Dean...

Hey!  That's not nice..

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Dean.  I don't care if your nice to PD.

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Dean.  I don't care if your nice to PD.

I suspected that...

Nice to see we got that cleaned up, because I would send Howard dean's posse after you...

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He has meetups in London.  So watch your back...

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He has meetups in London.  So watch your back...

I could handle a draft dodger...

Okay, I AM sending Dean after you. That's it.  

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You don't know what you're asking for..

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You don't know what you're asking for..

What's the worse he can do? Tax increases? Believe me, we're used to it in Sweden...

I don't remember that post.

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The post that you puoted me is the one in question.

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I'm lost.

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And he wants to run for president?  Haha!!
Imagine PD in a debate.

Just to let you know, I have won every debate I've ever been in. I'm on my high school's debate team. I'm also an elected Student Senate member.

And you didn't do it by saying "ALL DOCTORS WHO PERFORM ABORTIONS ARE MURDERERS!  IF THE WOMAN IS DYING BECAUSE OF HER PREGNANCY SO BE IT!  LET HER DIE!"

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Why couldn't NEW guns have a tracking device built in whereby once fired, a global positioning system within  the various regions of the country, would be alerted that that particular firearm had discharged and where it was discharged. This would make it harder for murderers/gangs/mafia to cover their crimes.

That is a very costly and dreamy plan, if you know what I mean.

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Why couldn't NEW guns have a tracking device built in whereby once fired, a global positioning system within  the various regions of the country, would be alerted that that particular firearm had discharged and where it was discharged. This would make it harder for murderers/gangs/mafia to cover their crimes.

That is a very costly and dreamy plan, if you know what I mean.

True enough. But I am a Dreamer. However, what's more costly in the long run? What matters more? Initial costs or long-term gain.

Initial costs.

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CM's plan is very, very, very unrealistic and costly.

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<<The 2nd amendment clearly does not protect the right to bear ALL arms>>

Yes, but the first amendment obviously protects pornography and all forms of freedom of expression?

Yes, or at least freedom of speech protects pornography as well.

The first amendment also protects legal homosexual relations.

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Well, I grew up in Levittown/East Meadow in Nassau County, but my parents moved out to Middle Island in Suffolk County while I was away at college.

I'm in Melville, suffolk county.  I have relatives in Levittown.