Gingrich/Thune vs. Obama/Biden

[Reaganfan]

Who wins?

[Nutmeg]

Wouldn't it make more sense to put the incumbent first?

That said, Gingrich is a washed-up hypocrite (seeking impeachment of someone for doing something similar to what he did, but at least he had the decency to then resign).  I don't see what appeal he would have beyond being an alternative to Obama.

[Bo]

Obama kicks Gingrich's ass all the way back to Georgia.

[justW353]

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

[California8429]

newt would win PA I think wish his huge education push and NM would be closer

[phk]

Obama.

It's probably like Bush 2004 though. Which would be Kerry + IA + NM + CO/VA/NV, etc.

[sentinel]

Obama kicks Gingrich's ass all the way back to Georgia.

I think Thune at the top of the ticket has a better chance than Gingrich at the top

[California8429]

Obama kicks Gingrich's ass all the way back to Georgia.

...until they debate

[Derek]

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The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

[sentinel]

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The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

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The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

Indiana and Virginia go Democratic for the first time in 44 years?

(And those states were far more Republican than Minnesota has been Democratic)

[HappyWarrior]

Obama kicks Gingrich's ass all the way back to Georgia.

...until they debate

Then he kicks Gingrich's ass all the way into the Gulf of Mexico.

[sentinel]

http://

The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

Indiana and Virginia go Democratic for the first time in 44 years?

(And those states were far more Republican than Minnesota has been Democratic)

We know why Indiana and Virginia went Democratic, we've seen the results, its a real case study. What demographic shift do you foresee happening in Minnesota that will make it go Republican?

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

http://

The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

Indiana and Virginia go Democratic for the first time in 44 years?

(And those states were far more Republican than Minnesota has been Democratic)

We know why Indiana and Virginia went Democratic, we've seen the results, its a real case study. What demographic shift do you foresee happening in Minnesota that will make it go Republican?

Um, the state is hardly a Democratic stronghold. Bush lost the nationwide popular vote in 2000 and only narrowly won it in 2004, yet the Democrats barely held onto Minnesota both times.

And there were no "great demographic shifts" to explain Indiana, either.

[sentinel]

http://

The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

Indiana and Virginia go Democratic for the first time in 44 years?

(And those states were far more Republican than Minnesota has been Democratic)

We know why Indiana and Virginia went Democratic, we've seen the results, its a real case study. What demographic shift do you foresee happening in Minnesota that will make it go Republican?

Um, the state is hardly a Democratic stronghold. Bush lost the nationwide popular vote in 2000 and only narrowly won it in 2004, yet the Democrats barely held onto Minnesota both times.

And there were no "great demographic shifts" to explain Indiana, either.

You can look at voter turnout and see why Indiana and North Carolina flipped, but it is yet to be seen if it is a new trend.

Something has to happen to break the trend. Minnesota has gone Democratic post-Nixon, and you're suggesting it will change. Why will Gingrich/Thune make Democrats in Minesotta go "oh hey, lemme vote for the guy I never heard of from South Dakota and the old guy who stepped down as Speaker of the House due to ethics violations...hmm"

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

http://

The GOP would have a very conservative ticket in touch with those who have been ignored.
Campaign slogan- Voice for the Ignored!

Minnesota goes Republican for the first time in 40 years?

Indiana and Virginia go Democratic for the first time in 44 years?

(And those states were far more Republican than Minnesota has been Democratic)

We know why Indiana and Virginia went Democratic, we've seen the results, its a real case study. What demographic shift do you foresee happening in Minnesota that will make it go Republican?

Um, the state is hardly a Democratic stronghold. Bush lost the nationwide popular vote in 2000 and only narrowly won it in 2004, yet the Democrats barely held onto Minnesota both times.

And there were no "great demographic shifts" to explain Indiana, either.

You can look at voter turnout and see why Indiana and North Carolina flipped, but it is yet to be seen if it is a new trend.

Something has to happen to break the trend. Minnesota has gone Democratic post-Nixon, and you're suggesting it will change. Why will Gingrich/Thune make Democrats in Minesotta go "oh hey, lemme vote for the guy I never heard of from South Dakota and the old guy who stepped down as Speaker of the House due to ethics violations...hmm"

Um, same things that cause states to flip every election.

In reversal of 2008, Minnesota and Wisconsin would easily swing to the GOP.

[opebo]

About like this:

But with Thune at the top:

[Derek]

Yes, it's called change in demographics.

[California8429]

About like this:

But with Thune at the top:

but I wouldn't see Gingrich at the bottom of any ticket. I'd put him in the cabinet...but he's much better on top, otherwise he overshados the top (unlike Palin with conservative energy) but with this knowledge that would kill Biden in teh debats

[Derek]

Gingrich is WAY over qualified for VP. It wouldn't look good. He's best as either president or Secretary of State.

[HappyWarrior]

About like this:

But with Thune at the top:

but I wouldn't see Gingrich at the bottom of any ticket. I'd put him in the cabinet...but he's much better on top, otherwise he overshados the top (unlike Palin with conservative energy) but with this knowledge that would kill Biden in teh debats

Biden is a very intelligent individual and showed it in the VP Debate.

[California8429]

About like this:

But with Thune at the top:

but I wouldn't see Gingrich at the bottom of any ticket. I'd put him in the cabinet...but he's much better on top, otherwise he overshados the top (unlike Palin with conservative energy) but with this knowledge that would kill Biden in teh debats

Biden is a very intelligent individual and showed it in the VP Debate.

Palin was just an idiot on stage

[Devilman88]

Something like that.

[opebo]

Gingrich is WAY over qualified for VP. It wouldn't look good. He's best as either president or Secretary of State.

How's he qualified?  Wasn't he just speaker of the house or something?

Anyway its silly to think of him as president.  Thune or Brown's your man - your voters like a good looking Sherrif Dillon nincompoop, not some hideous debauched professor type.