TN-SEN: Return of the Bredi

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Lol Corker just roasted that dotard.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Not saying that he will win, but he is by far our best chance in the state. Sure, he might get Stricklanded, but he is unarguably our best and only hope of getting a senate seat under these circumstances in TN within the next gagillion years. Besides, why not try? We need to compete everywhere that is even conceivable, and here it could be competitive. We don't have anything to lose here, and all to gain. His two governor races and approval rating of 72% when he left office are awesome, AND, just to bring up a reminder, in a PPP poll for 2012 hypos in the Senate race against Corker in TN, all Dems were down by yuge double digits, except Bredesen, who was up 46-41 over Corker. Even Lamar Alexander described Bredesen as a formidable candidate just a few days ago. The PPP doc is not working for me anymore, but the polling can be founding on this wiki article under Hypothetical polling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Tennessee,_2012

Chuck Schumer is already courting him to run, and he is reconsidering it now, plus with Corker the incumbent gone, that could help quite a bit. And I know there are tons of holes in this, but still, let's just do it, we literally have nothing to lose in TN.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I am just not seeing this.  Even if Nashville and Memphis do what NOVA and Hampton Roads did in VA-GOV and Williamson goes the way of Chesterfield, 2/3rds of the state is still basically VA-09 and filled with diehard rural Trump supporters.  This is a harder lift than Mississippi or Louisiana IMO.

I know, but at the very least, put Bredesen forth as the nominee, it does not mean you have to pour a lot of money, time and other resources into the race, but if we have the opportunity to make it even remotely competitive at no charge, we might as well do it.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

My message is we can make this somewhat competitive by just fielding Bredesen, and its free, so why the heck not do it?! I'm not saying we pour everything into this race, I'm just saying field him! Why the heck not?!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

YES!PLEASE!

seriously, he could win. I am making a county map now!

HECK YEAH!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

So I was thinking about how strange it is that a good old boy state (TN) is considering electing a women (Marsha Blackburn) on a statewide level. And I was absolutely amazed by how much momentum she is getting. And I was mulling over on if she could ever be defeated, and I came out with an idea. What if democrats got a near clone to a Trumpian, except on some economic issues, and ran him against Blackburn? This candidate would be male, somewhat sexist, a little openly, and mostly indirectly, and go after Blackburn, distancing herself from "Real TN values" and not understanding us since she does not even know us and cannot accurately represent "us". Stuff like that. Throw red meat at the base of the opposite party, try to bring back enough TN white male votes, and form a coalition to win. Basically, take Blackburn down with a candidate like Trump, except a democrat, and have a combo of indirect sexism, social conservatism, and economic left wing positions, along with being male, to take Blackburn out of the senate in 2022. Essentially, even if a democrat did this in tn, they likely would not lose much of the female vote in state, and possibly draw enough tn white male voters with his rhetoric to form a winning coalition. What do yall think? Could this work, and is it ethical? I think it is ethical, anything to take down Marsha Blackburn besides violence, that is never ok.

This reminds me of that atlas post saying democrats should run a race baiting campaign against Tim Scott.

He's is just thinking strategically, totally ethical, in fact I like it so much, I'm gonna send a friend request.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

also this-
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/31/blackburn-bredesen-virtually-tied-approval-ratings-us-senate-race-mtsu-poll-says/817291001/

and this-
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/11/10/sen-alexander-phil-bredesen-would-talks-taxes-healthcare-bredesen-and-north-korea-exclusive-intervie/852603001/

It's possible!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Let's have Bredesen run, have Bayh and Strickland primary Donnelly and Brown, bring back Mark Pryor in AR. It can be the 90s again, folks!


While we're at it, I think Siegelman could make an EXCELLENT AL Gov candidate. He was framed, after all.

Better yet: Democrats should run far-left candidates in literally every district, especially business-inclined, pro-life districts. That'll get you a majority for sure!

Even better: purge everyone who isn't the equivalent of Bernie Sanders or Lee Carter or anywhere else to the left. We know that anyone to the right of those two is basically Francisco Franco.

Seriously, it's a big-tent party. Learn to work with it.

I'm fine with a big tent. What I'm not fine with is assuming that dredging up people who haven't run a campaign since ARPANET was a thing is The Magic Bullet.

It's without question by far the best shot we got.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Let's have Bredesen run, have Bayh and Strickland primary Donnelly and Brown, bring back Mark Pryor in AR. It can be the 90s again, folks!


While we're at it, I think Siegelman could make an EXCELLENT AL Gov candidate. He was framed, after all.

Better yet: Democrats should run far-left candidates in literally every district, especially business-inclined, pro-life districts. That'll get you a majority for sure!

Even better: purge everyone who isn't the equivalent of Bernie Sanders or Lee Carter or anywhere else to the left. We know that anyone to the right of those two is basically Francisco Franco.

Seriously, it's a big-tent party. Learn to work with it.

I'm fine with a big tent. What I'm not fine with is assuming that dredging up people who haven't run a campaign since ARPANET was a thing is The Magic Bullet.

It's without question by far the best shot we got.

Then there should be a nice, open primary with the best recruits to make sure that Bredesen or whoever else wins is up to speed

This is actually a very fair critique, and I agree.

Lol, if Bredesen runs, the nomination is his, XD. That's not even in question.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

He's in now WOOHOO!!!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

HELL YES!!!!!!!!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

He is probably going to be the Democratic Mike Castle honestly.

He might be a Strickland or a Bayh or a Lingle, but he will NOT lose the primary.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Bredesen will easily win the primary.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Lol, thread merge.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Bredesen's introductory video

Freedom Video. It's so calm and warm. I love the guy already.

This, I have been waiting for this days for YEARS!!! Great Christmas present!

110% endorsement!!!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Lol Mackler is screwed XD.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Lol Mackler out, hahahahaha!!!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Oh man, Blackburn losing her senate race would be the cherry on top of the blue tsunami in 2018.

Cruz and Blackburn man. Gotta believe and hope the Bagels of the world are out there organizing in the burbs instead of declaring these races safe R.

Already got 3 votes committed for O'Rourke, gonna try to get some more, and then badger them to show up to vote.

Also got 3 committed to Bredesen and Dean.

And 2 for McCaskill.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I think as of today in a GE, James Shaw Jr. would beat Blackburn by a couple points in Tennessee.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

CNN did an article on Bredesen:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/29/politics/bredesen-blackburn-democrat-tennessee-2018/index.html

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

CNN did an article on Bredesen:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/29/politics/bredesen-blackburn-democrat-tennessee-2018/index.html

Safe R.

Ok.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

I'd personally like to see the Republican wing of the Democratic Party disgraced so I'd vote third party in a match-up between these two Republicans.

The only race so far that I can say for sure that I would vote 3rd party if I lived in the area is the WV-03 Congressional Race where I would vote for whoever the Mountain Party nominates to show my displeasure with Ojeda having endorsed Trump in 2016.

I would have a few months back as well, but he says he absolutely regrets it, plus he is pretty awesome and we all make mistakes, so I am willing to forgive him this time.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

New Bredesen Ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lvm_Gga7mM

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Trump going to Nashville for a rally. Who wants to bet that several undisclosed GOP internals have Marsha down?

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Drumpf going to Nashville for a rally. Who wants to bet that several undisclosed GOP internals have Marsha down?

It's the only thing that makes sense. Because why Nashville, of all places, otherwise? I wonder what Bredesen's derogatory nickname is going to be. Baloney Bredesen? Boring Bredesen? Bland Bredesen?

Stale Bredesen, see what I did there