The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread

[The_Doctor]

Read this in another forum:

Immediately before the vote, they passed an amendment that would make the AHCA apply to members of Congress. Because this bill will affect Congress' pay and benefits, it is no longer considered a budget reconciliation and can therefore be filibustered in the Senate. That amendment was passed unanimously, with every 'yea' voter knowing it means the bill dies in the Senate.

Anyone know if this is true?

Its a separate bill so I assume that its not considered part of the bill the House passed.

[Classic Conservative]

This is just the beginning of the winning!

Hopefully we can build the wall, ban abortion, ban gay marriage, deport all the illegals and get rid of the anchors babies! USA!

Go do your homework, little boy.

All done my friend!

[The_Doctor]

Good.  Have Collins or Murkowski said anything yet?

Collins wants to wait for the CBO score and no word from Murkowski.

[The_Doctor]

This is just the beginning of the winning!

Hopefully we can build the wall, ban abortion, ban gay marriage, deport all the illegals and get rid of the anchors babies! USA!

Go do your homework, little boy.

All done my friend!

Good while we have you here can you tell us why you support the bill? And can you defend it?

[KingSweden]

House republicans plan to get drunk and celebrate taking away people's health insurance. This will be rolled on DCCC ads thousands of times in 2018.

https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/860189985856770048

This is the worst idea ever

[KingSweden]

Read this in another forum:

Immediately before the vote, they passed an amendment that would make the AHCA apply to members of Congress. Because this bill will affect Congress' pay and benefits, it is no longer considered a budget reconciliation and can therefore be filibustered in the Senate. That amendment was passed unanimously, with every 'yea' voter knowing it means the bill dies in the Senate.

Anyone know if this is true?

I saw a theory on Twitter that the big victory celebration at WH is because they know this is as far as it gets, so might as well make it look like a win

[Yank2133]

House republicans plan to get drunk and celebrate taking away people's health insurance. This will be rolled on DCCC ads thousands of times in 2018.

https://twitter.com/ajjaffe/status/860189985856770048

This is the worst idea ever

Yeah, this will be in every ad next year.

[I Won - Get Over It]

But it still much better than pre-Obama, right? And Senate might make it slightly better (or it just dies).

Yes, the Republicans will probably lose midterms, but we'll see.

[ApatheticAustrian]

GOP Senate plans to draft a whole new bill rather than use House bill as starting point
https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/860211993571098624

[Yank2133]

But it still much better than pre-Obama, right? And Senate might make it slightly better (or it just dies).

Yes, the Republicans will probably lose midterms, but we'll see.

Lol, you are trying so hard to spin this.

This is sh**t policy through and through.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

I believe "I Won - Get Over it" is being sarcastic.  Still, I like how none of the people ITT supporting the bill are able to defend it.  A win's a win and that's all that matters, right?

[Yank2133]

I believe "I Won - Get Over it" is being sarcastic.  Still, I like how none of the people ITT supporting the bill are able to defend it.  A win's a win and that's all that matters, right?

It is getting hard to tell who is being sarcastic these days.

[The_Doctor]

GOP Senate plans to draft a whole new bill rather than use House bill as starting point
https://twitter.com/philipaklein/status/860211993571098624

So in other words the House vote was moot except as a vehicle to get stuff to the Senate?

So basically what did the GOP in the House walk the plank for if the Senate is going to do its own version? They could've passed any old shell bill and sent it to the Senate.

[ApatheticAustrian]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/860213623414812672

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Well of course they're drinking! Half of them are losing their seats in 2018.

[Gass3268]

So Portman, Heller, and Capito, and Collins have major issues with the bill in the Senate. That, combined with 48 Democratic votes, means major changes to the left in the Senate -- changes that I don't think the House will swallow easily.

Murkowski also won't vote for any bill that guts Planned Parenthood spending.

[The_Doctor]

So Portman, Heller, and Capito, and Collins have major issues with the bill in the Senate. That, combined with 48 Democratic votes, means major changes to the left in the Senate -- changes that I don't think the House will swallow easily.

Murkowski also won't vote for any bill that guts Planned Parenthood spending.

I'm forgetting but theres another pro choice GOP Senator too. So the PP funding stays.

[ApatheticAustrian]

excuse me but one more time....

is there in fact ANY way to solve this with 50 votes without killing the filibuster? reconciliation even...thinkable?

[OSR stands with Israel]

Why the heck is the GOP putting Trumpcare over Trump Tax cuts.

[HAnnA MArin County]

Republicans have no shame, but I feel no pity for the people who are going to lose their health care because of this. You get what you vote for! Of course, all Trump has to do is cry "fake media!" when the numbers start coming in about people losing their health care, premiums going up, etc., and sadly his sheeple will listen.

2018 cannot come quick enough. I hope these sociopaths are laughed out of town.

[Bleach Blonde Bad Built Butch Bodies for Biden]

So Portman, Heller, and Capito, and Collins have major issues with the bill in the Senate. That, combined with 48 Democratic votes, means major changes to the left in the Senate -- changes that I don't think the House will swallow easily.

Murkowski also won't vote for any bill that guts Planned Parenthood spending.

I'm forgetting but theres another pro choice GOP Senator too. So the PP funding stays.

Yeah.  Collins.

(And Capito by some metric.)

[JA]

Some of you guys need to chill with these low-blow attacks. Yes, these Republicans who voted for this are scumbags and I want them to lose their seats and hopefully face their conscience no less than anyone else here. In fact, I already wrote my Congressman who voted for this law a very strongly worded message of condemnation. But hoping their children get chronic conditions? Wanting them to get hit by an ambulance? Come on, you know that's not right.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Some of you guys need to chill with these low-blow attacks. Yes, these Republicans who voted for this are scumbags and I want them to lose their seats and hopefully face their conscience no less than anyone else here. In fact, I already wrote my Congressman who voted for this law a very strongly worded message of condemnation. But hoping their children get chronic conditions? Wanting them to get hit by an ambulance? Come on, you know that's not right.

this

i understand people getting pissed if they or someone they know lose their healthcare insurance but trump voters are getting screwed the most anyway and the right thing to do atm would be to get active and to make sure to communicate who is responsible for doing what and how to stop it,

[The_Doctor]

excuse me but one more time....

is there in fact ANY way to solve this with 50 votes without killing the filibuster? reconciliation even...thinkable?

They'll use reconciliation. I don't understand the question? The filibuster isn't applicable because of the use of reconciliation.

[The_Doctor]

Some of you guys need to chill with these low-blow attacks. Yes, these Republicans who voted for this are scumbags and I want them to lose their seats and hopefully face their conscience no less than anyone else here. In fact, I already wrote my Congressman who voted for this law a very strongly worded message of condemnation. But hoping their children get chronic conditions? Wanting them to get hit by an ambulance? Come on, you know that's not right.

this

i understand people getting pissed if they or someone they know lose their healthcare insurance but trump voters are getting screwed the most anyway and the right thing to do atm would be to get active and to make sure to communicate who is responsible for doing what and how to stop it,

Don't get mad. That triggers the dopamine in their brains. You have to ask them why they support the bill and defend it. That's when the hemming and hawing begins.