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Question: American citizens: where do you stand on Israel?
#1
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democractic... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#2
1st Choice: 2 states... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish... 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
#3
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: 2 states... 3rd Choice: Israel is Jewish
 
#4
1st Choice: Israel is Democratic... 2nd Choice: Israel is Jewish.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#5
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: Israel is Democratic.. 3rd Choice: 2 states
 
#6
1st Choice: Israel is Jewish... 2nd Choice: 2 states.. 3rd Choice: Israel is Democratic
 
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Computer89
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« on: January 01, 2017, 02:24:08 AM »

Why is Israel accused of occupying gaza and West Bank . They were attacked 6 times and won a those wars and got that land in part of the agreement in ending the wars . So that is Israel land since they won the war .
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OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 03:36:04 AM »

Why is Israel accused of occupying gaza and West Bank . They were attacked 6 times and won a those wars and got that land in part of the agreement in ending the wars . So that is Israel land since they won the war .

A major part of the reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242

Also, I don't think Israel is still accused of "occupying" Gaza, at least in the way they are accused of occupying the West Bank and the Golan Heights.
Since it was before the 73 war it doesn't count as the defeat of Israel enemies changes the earlier agreement .
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OSR stands with Israel
Computer89
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Posts: 45,227


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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 01:40:55 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2017, 01:48:18 PM by Old School Republican »

Why is Israel accused of occupying gaza and West Bank . They were attacked 6 times and won a those wars and got that land in part of the agreement in ending the wars . So that is Israel land since they won the war .

Gaza is under Hamas, although I don't know if Israel still has siege around it.

West bank Israeli occupation is illegal by international standards. After the 6 day war in 67 odd,  The International community revised the earlier border of 47 (where Israel had lesser land area) & divided the area in a way such that only Gaza & West Bank was for Palestine & the rest was for Israel.

So any Israeli settlement of West Bank is illegal as the international community recognizes that land as a future Palestine state (PLO is an observer kind of thing in UN). This idea that you can fight in wars & annex & that part becomes yours is medieval. Any country can annex any part then. The West Bank is the last hope for a future Palestine state.

West Bank is still largely composed of Palestine people - Do you kill millions of Palestine people similar to the Holocaust because there is no way these people can live within Israel & neither will everyone abandon their homeland & flee (many millions have already fled as refugees anyways). This conflict will only blow up. We had 2 Intifadas, we are just sitting on the cusp of a 3rd more horrible one.

This is a Vox video about about the basics of the  Israel-Palestine conflict - But it is sad how moderate Israeli leaders have also been murdered by their own people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYZjOuUnlU&t=8s


Illegal by international standards lol what they won the land in 1973 in a war they didn't start which means it's their land period .
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