European Parliament Election: May 23-26, 2019

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Korwin no seats, Kukiz no seats. Yeah, and PiS would have majority. And what is funny record high Polish representation in S&D group.

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Amazing result. Huge PiS, Confederacy out (which presumably means they'll be in shambles and fighting each other long before the parliamentary election too).

thought you'd be a fan of Korwin

Used to find him funny, but his alliance engaged in a thoroughly antisemitic campaign (basically shouting "PiS are bought by the Jews" very loudly) and their troll army on Twitter is horrible. Also don't really like Korwin's economically libertarian streak.

I just want to add that while currently whole Internet is talking about PiS vs PO obviously, some smaller segment of it is talking about why Konfederacja lost and while others are talking that chances to get 5% are nice Korwin thinks that coalition is pointless and they should let him talk about "that this whole campaign against pedophilia is nonsense".

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So for which countries we are still waiting? Sweden?

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Cartogram for KE



and for Wiosna

Isn't most of the present-day population of those parts of Poland descended from colonists who settled the areas annexed from Germany after World War II after they themselves were forced out of areas annexed to the USSR? Could that have something to do with it?

Probably--in a way, that "uprootedness" gives them more of a pan-European consciousness and cosmopolitan outlook.  Whereas those in the E are much more defensively rooted in the notion of a "pure" Polish nation-state...

Few things:

1) A lot of the people who settled on the territories annexed from Germany were from central and southern voivodships, not only from the territories annexed by the Soviet Union. There were places where people from the east were majority but there were also parts of the post-German territories where people from central Poland were majority. But generally this was sort of melting pot, people from different parts of the country had come there and their past social links were cut off. They started new lives, without being in any way limited and also supported by their previous communities. This had major influence on how people organized their lives, what views they had etc. Also Church and other major social, cultural, scientific organisations had to settle themselves, which obviously in destroyed by war country was difficult, and in few years after the war communist fully took over power and they also attempted to control other aspects of life. Which was obviously easier in territories where community making was still in progress. But we shouldn't absolutise the history in this case, still, there obviously is some sort of causation.

2) Another thing, probably more important: west is more urbanised (https://static.epodreczniki.pl/portal/f/res-minimized/RgbMaIu4MAHnt/8/960/27H5ioG30amUSS5i3raiGum7Gq2mCfbx.png)

3) I guess tack50 asked about the places which do not fit "regularities". As for the east big differences in support are caused mainly by ethnic minorities - Lithuanians and Belorussians-Orthodox people. As for the western part also minorities - Kashubians, which are rather conservative and Lutherans in Wisła which for obvious reasons do not vote on PiS. There is also issue of copper mines near Lubin and Legnica, where pro-PiS Solidarity trade union is strong and thus PiS is also usually relatively strong there. Obviously often irregularities are caused by candidates themselves, their home places often vote for them more, to some extend at least.

https://i.imgur.com/mJjqWuh.png

K - Kashubians
Lt - Lithuanians
O - Belarussians, Orthodox
Lu - Lutherans
C- copper mines district
M - example of support for candidate from particular county, in this case minister Elżbieta Rafalska
dots - I have no ing clue
T- very touristy area where a lot of people from different parts of country reside/lives

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Konfederacja results across the Poland:




You can clearly see Grzegorz Braun effect in Podkarpacie.

And Kukiz'15

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Lewica Razem result

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Why are they relatively strong (although 2-4% isn't strong) in the area of central Poland southwest of Warsaw? I'm also interested in the 4+% area - is it Krakow?

Łódź Voivodship and Piotr Ikonowicz (which is mine electoral district and for whom I voted) who is relatively well known (at least compared to other Lewica Razem list leaders he is the best known person) former leader of Polish Socialist Party, former Sejm MP and anti-communist opposition activist, currently focused mainly on helping people who are being evicted from their flats). He is awful politician (he is anti-Midas in terms of politics) but totally sort of economically underprivileged groups champion thus perceived as positive character and received better result. As for the 4% area its Olkusz county from which leader of the list in Lesser Poland-Świętokrzyskie district Jan Orkisz (from Unia Pracy, not Razem) comes from and reside, he is well known local politician so he is also locally supported more than in other parts.

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What makes rather rural Warmia-Mazuria so non-PiS. Just combined PO-PSL machine is strong enough?

See post previous page about post-war processes + Ukrainians to some extend.

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Does the urban working class in Poland prefer KO or PiS?

PiS leaning.

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Does the urban working class in Poland prefer KO or PiS?

PiS leaning.

I was curious because it seems PO/KE wins not just in Warsaw but most other Polish cities including those in say Silesia which I'd think have more of an industrial character compared to the capital.

In every Polish voivodship there is dominance of services over industry sector. Second of all, PiS is much stronger than PO in unqualified/qualified industrial worker but still they do not have support of every industrial worker. And also Silesia is specific region where there are also weird cultural connotations, Silesian identity etc. and PiS is strongly centralizing party so groups of Silesian Silesians might do not like PiS just for their nationalism and centralism. 

Is there a breakdown of the Polish vote by age?

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Currently in Poland: PiS is pushing hard narrative that German candidate from CDU as EC president is somehow sign of end of Germany-France dominance and Poland great position (because they blocked Timmermans).

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Committee on Foreign Affairs
1st Vice-Chair: Mr Witold Jan WASZCZYKOWSKI (ECR, PL)
The 2nd, 3rd and 4th Vice-Chairs will be elected at a forthcoming meeting

Dear Lord.

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Well, at least PiS is happy because as Polish FM said they stopped "federalist spitzenkandidaten system" and went back to elections of EC by "leaders and parliaments elected democratically".