DC statehood Megathread (pg 33 - Manchin questioning constitutionality)

[Person Man]

What states would we get?

[Person Man]

I'm more than a bit fuzzy on the rules of reconciliation, but is the idea that this could be done through that process one with actual momentum in the caucus (and any chance of persuading Manchin and Sinema to vote for it if so)?

This is objectively good, in any case. American citizens deserve congressional representation and Carper's shows that bold action is more mainstream among the party than some defeatists feel. If this succeeds, a great deal more might be possible as a result.

That's really a known unknown, but it's being quietly discussed at the very least.

They could just nuke it through if Manchin doesn’t get in the way.

[Person Man]

I'm more than a bit fuzzy on the rules of reconciliation, but is the idea that this could be done through that process one with actual momentum in the caucus (and any chance of persuading Manchin and Sinema to vote for it if so)?

This is objectively good, in any case. American citizens deserve congressional representation and Carper's shows that bold action is more mainstream among the party than some defeatists feel. If this succeeds, a great deal more might be possible as a result.

That's really a known unknown, but it's being quietly discussed at the very least.

They could just nuke it through if Manchin doesn’t get in the way.

But Manchin isn't the only vote Democrats need to worry about. Neither Sinema or King has ever co-sponsored DC Statehood legislation despite literally every other D except the newcomers co-sponsoring it. Carper never did either but considering he's introducing it, I think we can assume where he stands.

Im sure we will hear more soon. We at least know it will be attempted by 50 votes. Not having most of DC under direct Federal jurisdiction would save the Feds money. They can already use the Byrd bath to pass it.

[Person Man]

1. If passed, what happens to those electors?

2. Also, does anyone actually think this is going to happen?

3. See (2)

They stay electors. The only difference is that the Mayor becomes the Governor maybe and we go to 102 senators and 536 representatives. 538.

[Person Man]

Yes this is a Democratic power grab.
And I for one wholeheartedly endorse it.

It’s really the Republican’s fault for buying into, and becoming dependent upon, being a part of a decades’ long problem.

[Person Man]

For reference, this is where we currently are.

There's a small chance ceratin Rs vote for it but they are unlikely to do that unless it has already passed.

The lighter green means they have indicated support but aren't an official co-sponsor. Carper for instance is a sponsor and the one who has introduced the bill but is technically not a co-sponsor.

...Angus King? More likely that Susan Collins votes for this than King votes against it (esp. if he’s the deciding vote).

(not that Manchin's and Sinema's votes are really in doubt either, but King is even more absurd)

Having the votes for this is like having the votes for the tax cuts. This is the bare minimum major legislative item.

[Person Man]

Please split California in half.

Just so long as you guys have to keep Newsom.

Deal. You can have Kevin McCarthy.

Bakersfield goes with NorCal. Sorry, the Tehachapis are the border.

Bulldinky. This should be the map:



Or if you want more states, this:

https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/

Marin - Like California is now
El Dorado - Like Colorado
Coronado - Like New Mexico
Centralia - Like Florida or Arizona
Jefferson- Like Missouri or Ohio, not quite like Utah

[Person Man]

So...what is the chance DC get statehood? I say around 20%.

Unless there’s a major counter-offer, it’s going to happen.

[Person Man]

https://twitter.com/im_sorry_wtf/status/1374202740092506116

Trump would have won this state by roughly 10,000 votes in 2020. Who would’ve thought WV and DC would be our next swing states!

That would be wild. I might actually be OK with this. It would at least slightly deal with our problem with the senate being slightly gerrymandered against Democrats. Still probably not good enough.