Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim

[DaleCooper]

Stuff like this is why the anti-abortion extremists are some of the most repulsive people in the country. I can't even begin to imagine the state of absolute degeneracy you would have to be in to twist yourself into thinking that forcing a raped child to carry a pregnancy is the right thing to do. These are the most disgusting people American politics, by far.

[DaleCooper]

Stuff like this is why the anti-abortion extremists are some of the most repulsive people in the country. I can't even begin to imagine the state of absolute degeneracy you would have to be in to twist yourself into thinking that forcing a raped child to carry a pregnancy is the right thing to do. These are the most disgusting people American politics, by far.

A human life begins at conception. Under what circumstances it was conceived is irrelevant- just as how a born person is valuable regardless of the circumstances of how they were created, the same is true of an unborn person. And if standing up for all human lives makes me “the most disgusting person in American politics” according to DaleCooper on talkelections.org… so be it.

If you're too dumb to figure out that an unborn life is less valuable than the life of a born child then yes you're one of the most disgusting people in American politics. Even a lot of the most rabid pro-lifers are mature enough to admit that in cases like this, but not you apparently.

[DaleCooper]

The actually born child is a more valuable life than the fetus. Every sane person, including most pro-lifers, are mature enough to admit this. If you're unable to admit that then you're a pretty sick person who has rotted his brain on pro-life political propaganda.

To help you get the point, imagine that a pregnant mother is in some strange situation where she either has to lose her pregnancy or lose the life of her already born child. I think we all know what every not crazy woman would choose in that hypothetical situation. And no, that doesn't mean I'm saying that miscarriages aren't tragic so don't shovel a bunch of fake outrage BS my way about how I'm being mean or dismissive about that, but surely we can be emotionally intelligent enough to recognize the world of difference between an independently existing human and a fetus.

To use another example, imagine that you're in a burning building and there's an actual man trapped inside, but you only have time to either save him or a petri dish with a couple fertilized eggs in it that is also trapped inside. Again, unless you're sick in the head, you know what the right answer is in that situation.

At this point I'm not even talking about abortion anymore. I'm talking about valuing the lives of human beings. Saying that a fetus is equal to someone who exists and is viable outside the womb is as much a devaluation of human life as it is an elevation of the value of fetuses, and that's bad. It's every bit as dangerous if not more so than the environmentalists who think trees are more valuable than the lives of human beings.

[DaleCooper]

Stuff like this is why the anti-abortion extremists are some of the most repulsive people in the country. I can't even begin to imagine the state of absolute degeneracy you would have to be in to twist yourself into thinking that forcing a raped child to carry a pregnancy is the right thing to do. These are the most disgusting people American politics, by far.

A human life begins at conception. Under what circumstances it was conceived is irrelevant- just as how a born person is valuable regardless of the circumstances of how they were created, the same is true of an unborn person. And if standing up for all human lives makes me “the most disgusting person in American politics” according to DaleCooper on talkelections.org… so be it.

Again you are taking your personal philosophical positions and asserting them as incontrovertible fact, and then acting overdramatic when some people don't agree with you.

I literally believe innocent human beings are being murdered with absolutely no repercussions for the murderers. I think a person who believes that, and does nothing about it, is more morally dubious than someone who believes that and doesn’t do anything about it, regardless of any political issues at play.

Ferguson97 actually brought up a surprisingly good point. If you really believe this then why aren't you taking up arms and killing abortion doctors or holding pregnant women seeking an abortion hostage so that they give birth? I'm serious. If I sincerely believed that babies were being murdered next door, I like to think that I would be brave enough to go in and put a stop to it, even if it meant using lethal force. If you're going to have these stupid beliefs at least admit that you're too cowardly and pathetic to do anything about it. If your only answer to "millions of babies being torn limb from limb!" is to post on Atlas about it then you're as guilty as those Uvalde police that were playing Candy Crush while those kids got shot.

[DaleCooper]

Stuff like this is why the anti-abortion extremists are some of the most repulsive people in the country. I can't even begin to imagine the state of absolute degeneracy you would have to be in to twist yourself into thinking that forcing a raped child to carry a pregnancy is the right thing to do. These are the most disgusting people American politics, by far.

A human life begins at conception. Under what circumstances it was conceived is irrelevant- just as how a born person is valuable regardless of the circumstances of how they were created, the same is true of an unborn person. And if standing up for all human lives makes me “the most disgusting person in American politics” according to DaleCooper on talkelections.org… so be it.

Again you are taking your personal philosophical positions and asserting them as incontrovertible fact, and then acting overdramatic when some people don't agree with you.

I literally believe innocent human beings are being murdered with absolutely no repercussions for the murderers. I think a person who believes that, and does nothing about it, is more morally dubious than someone who believes that and doesn’t do anything about it, regardless of any political issues at play.

Ferguson97 actually brought up a surprisingly good point. If you really believe this then why aren't you taking up arms and killing abortion doctors or holding pregnant women seeking an abortion hostage so that they give birth? I'm serious. If I sincerely believed that babies were being murdered next door, I like to think that I would be brave enough to go in and put a stop to it, even if it meant using lethal force. If you're going to have these stupid beliefs at least admit that you're too cowardly and pathetic to do anything about it. If your only answer to "millions of babies being torn limb from limb!" is to post on Atlas about it then you're as guilty as those Uvalde police that were playing Candy Crush while those kids got shot.

Why aren't you in Tijuana right now playing superhero against the human traffickers?

Because I would probably get blown away by a guy with an AK47 before I got anywhere near the place, and it requires travel. And also, I'll just admit this, I'm not selfless enough to try and play superhero in a situation that distant from me.

But an abortion doctor is likely unarmed and unless you live in an area with few or no clinics, he's within easy reach. If you sincerely believe that a guy is murdering babies every day right down the street, then you should go put a stop to it, unless you value to the fetus life less than you would if it was someone who's actually been born.

[DaleCooper]

Because it wouldn’t be effective. The women would call the police, I’d get put in prison for assault/kidnapping (losing the ability to vote for pro-life politicians), and then the women would get the abortion anyway, and moderates on the fence would look at me and say, “pro lifers are wackos. I’m against them.”

So the only reason you wouldn’t kidnap a woman trying to get an abortion is because you think you’d probably get caught?

I can't imagine anyone being comfortable with making children (even as young as ten!) giving birth to children.  How sick can you be to live with yourself and yet hold that view?

How sick can you be to want to snuff the life of an unborn child out?  That's a fair question.  My unborn grandchild felt pain when aborted, more pain than you would accept if it were a convicted murderer dying by lethal injection.  (Yes, I can fight melodrama with melodrama.)

Do you think your daughter/daughter-in-law is a murderer? Do you think they’re going to Hell for murdering their own child? If they gave birth and smothered their newborn, would you feel differently?

The only thing people go to Hell for is rejecting the Salvation of Jesus Christ.  They choose not to believe and not to accept the only propitiation for their Sin, which is the Redemptive Work of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

I do not believe that people who have abortions (or, for that matter, abortion doctors) have murderous intent when they do what they do.  But God does consider it the taking of Innocent Human Life.  My prayer for all those that have had abortions is that they realize that God loves them and wants them to come to Christ.  My prayer for God's Church is that we be ready to minister to all that would come to him.

1. Why is "Innocent Human Life" capitalized?

2. There's no mention of that in the Bible so how do you know with such certainty that God considers this to be true?