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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: December 02, 2018, 08:36:51 PM »

Here is a VERY illuminating twitter thread about rural whites and why they stopped voting Democratic.
Hint: it ain't economic anxiety







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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2018, 09:03:23 PM »

Were they Obama-Trump voters? Plenty of rural voters were gone long before Obama, it's the small slice that defected afterwards that should get the most interest, the solid Republican majority is not worth the constant focus.

On the contrary. Clinton losing Wisconsin has something to do with West Virginia! Some random neoliberal lesbian on Twitter even said so!

Says the guy who until ten minutes ago thought Mahaska County was a Marvel character.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2018, 09:08:55 PM »

Based on random tweet of some random person ?

How much more stupid is this going to get ??

That random person has talked to thousands of rural whites.
But I guess a random guy from India (or Seattle) has a much better insight on how these people are thinking.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 02:22:41 AM »

He didn't, but that doesn't stop the  Bernie Derangement Syndrome democrats from convincing themselves that he did say that.


Must have been another Bernie Sanders the one who said that Democrats should leave behind "identity politics" (embracing a Republican talking point) and then endorsed an anti-abortion candidate.

BTW, has anyone read the entire twitter thread and not only the tweets I posted? Because I see a lot of idiotic questions and assumptions that would have been answered and refuted if you actually did.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 02:33:16 AM »

Terrific! 8 years of crazy AOC pushing for crazy policies and we're winning both rural Iowa and white suburbans Smiley.

Who is we dude? You are from effing Netherlands.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 02:39:27 AM »

Terrific! 8 years of crazy AOC pushing for crazy policies and we're winning both rural Iowa and white suburbans Smiley.

Who is we dude? You are from effing Netherlands.

I'm an internationalist showing solidarity to my fellow right-wingers

Good, maybe you should some solidarity to our own Golden Dawn too. I'm sure they'll be delighted to have your support.
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 03:14:27 PM »

An extremely online unemployed writer with multiple grad degrees has a take on whites in the rural United States.

In Iowa there are two words for that: Who cares?

Whoever was responsible for sending this person to Oskaloosa as a political organizer should be fired, escorted from the premises, and forbidden from working on any Democratic campaign.

Said the privileged white guy from his New York City apartment.

P.S. The fact that Bernie bros are having a seizure over these comments is the most convincing argument that she is telling the truth.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 03:50:36 PM »



^Maybe not a great choice for directing Democratic outreach in areas where more than 19 in 20 voters are non-Hispanic white.

That's my view from Park Slope, anyway. Wink

OMG, she made a joke about white guys. What a feminazi.

An extremely online unemployed writer with multiple grad degrees has a take on whites in the rural United States.

In Iowa there are two words for that: Who cares?

Whoever was responsible for sending this person to Oskaloosa as a political organizer should be fired, escorted from the premises, and forbidden from working on any Democratic campaign.

Said the privileged white guy from his New York City apartment.

P.S. The fact that Bernie bros are having a seizure over these comments is the most convincing argument that she is telling the truth.

Did you start this thread just to make fun of Bernie Supporters?


No. But they are making it so easy.
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« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 04:04:11 PM »

Says the guy who until ten minutes ago thought Mahaska County was a Marvel character.

That random person has talked to thousands of rural whites.
But I guess a random guy from India (or Seattle) has a much better insight on how these people are thinking.


Who is we dude? You are from effing Netherlands.


Said the privileged white guy from his New York City apartment.

P.S. The fact that Bernie bros are having a seizure over these comments is the most convincing argument that she is telling the truth.

Really owning all those Sanderistas I see Roll Eyes



Uh, I wouldn't call mvd10 exactly a Sandernista.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2018, 08:00:30 AM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know NOTHING about Averroes.. Very very obviously. Or the geography of New York state.

I'm envious of this doppelganger of mine that's posting from a place where milk cows don't outnumber adults with college degrees several times over.

You know, maybe that's the problem with you.
Maybe you should try to confer more with people instead of cows.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2018, 10:53:23 AM »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You know NOTHING about Averroes.. Very very obviously. Or the geography of New York state.

I'm envious of this doppelganger of mine that's posting from a place where milk cows don't outnumber adults with college degrees several times over.

You know, maybe that's the problem with you.
Maybe you should try to confer more with people instead of cows.

Not your best effort ... which means it's REALLY lame, LOL.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2018, 11:27:40 AM »

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Lmao what? This is so f****** stupid. Wiki says Mahaska County has went Republican in every single Presidential election since 1968, Marion County in all but two (1976 and 1988). Gore lost these counties by 20 points. Does she seriously think these are the places which certain Democrats want to win back? That Sanders wants Democrats to win over conservative evangelical single issue abortion voters and people who actually care about opposing gay marriage? Christ. No wonder the Clinton campaign was such a trainwreck when they had these idiots organising for her.

Still, Mahaska County went from 59-39 in 2012 for Romney to 70-25 for Trump in 2016. And Marion County went from 56-42 in 2012 for Romney, to 62-31 for Trump in 2016.

These aren't counties that a democrat needs to win, but they certainly need to win back some of those rural voters and avoid being completely blown out.

So her overall hypothesis is still right, these counties are also full of Obama-Trump voters.

Of course that's what she meant. But it's much easier and convenient for the bros to twist and misinterpret her words and then start attacking her as a "dumb bitch".
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2018, 01:45:39 PM »


Approximately 25% of voters in those two counties voted for Obama and stayed home in 2016 or voted for Trump. She does not seem to have noticed any of them or is deliberately ignoring them, using voters who almost certainly were Republicans even before 2016 as an argument that they need to give up on these places - exactly the opposite of what you claim she meant.

No, it's not. If you read her entire thread she mentions that many of these people who hated Mexicans, abortion, and didn't believe that a woman can be president, at the same time admitted that Democratic economic policies have benefited both the state and them personally.
I doubt that partisan, hardcore Republicans would ever admit that publicly. And of course debunks the theory that these people didn't vote Democratic because Clinton didn't talk enough about the economy. 
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