Opinion of MY version of ProLife

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

Well, I am.

I know that, I was referring Silent Cal

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

There are more than a few such posters on this forum.

I was referring to silent cal, quite obviously. You're good.

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

If you are against killing you are pro-life.  People can argue about economic policies all they want but it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.

It's not.

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

If you are against killing you are pro-life.  People can argue about economic policies all they want but it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.

It's not.

It is. I devote my personal time and resources to helping others, but I don't think socialism helps others. Capitalism is the single greatest system for poverty eradication in the world.

No, Capitalism supports poverty and injustice. Besides I'm not talking about socialism vs capitalism. I am talking about a decent welfare state and universal healthcare to feed the poor and hungry so they are not left downtrodden to left without hope and left to die, as the state doesn't do aything.

This is a part of a constant life ethic, a part good human morality.

You cannot separate such issues out, as much as you want to.

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

If you are against killing you are pro-life.  People can argue about economic policies all they want but it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.

It's not.

It is. I devote my personal time and resources to helping others, but I don't think socialism helps others. Capitalism is the single greatest system for poverty eradication in the world.

No, Capitalism supports poverty and injustice. Besides I'm not talking about socialism vs capitalism. I am talking about a decent welfare state and universal healthcare to feed the poor and hungry so they are not left downtrodden to left without hope and left to die, as the state doesn't do aything.

This is a part of a constant life ethic, a part good human morality.

You cannot separate such issues out, as much as you want to.

He believes that capitalism is the best way to do that. Stop pretending that being "prolife" requires agreeing with you on every economic policy.

Being pro-universal healthcare, and pro-welfare state is required yes.

Do pro-life people (like me) claim that holding a pro-abortion, is contrary to to supporting a life ethic yes (which is correct position to hold). I believe being anti-welfare, and anti-universal healthcare is contrary to a constant pro-life ethic (which is also the correct position to hold).

Again I mentioned nothing about socialism vs capitalism, you guys added that in. But if we're going on the topic, I believe that socialism is the more moral and just system, which should not abolish capitalism in its entirety but get rid of the anti-social natures of capitalism, for a world of equality and morality.

I mentioned nothing about socialism, in my first post.

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So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

Well, I am.

Again this was not directed to you, I personally also am pro-life.

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Exactly the way I am. Pro-life from the womb to the grave.

So you're for universal healthcare, and for a welfare state that looks out for the poor, with  high levels of taxation on the rich to provide resources to essential services for society, that save people's lives.

Oh wait no...

Well, I am.

Again not directed at you, as I also am personally pro-life.

+ Mastrubation is not murder, as the release of sperm, that would not be used for the development of human life is not murder. Neither is a condom/contraception, which prevents a pregnancy, or the morning after pill, which also prevents a pregnancy. Once there is a pregnancy, there is life, and taking the life, which is human life is immoral.