Israeli General Election (2nd of March, 2020): Madness

[BP🌹]

Also, Odeh to the President: "we all agree that the Jewish people have a right of self recognition, but we're also a national group with rights". Odeh is really leading the JL into a more non-Zionist rather than anti-Zionist direction.

That's not incompatible with anti-Zionism.

[Walmart_shopper]

YB recommends Gantz. The whiplash on govt formation round 3 continues to surpass rounds 1 and 2.

It's usually like this, though. Israeli coalitional politics require so much patience and thickness of skin. Lieberman and the Joint List have always been working closely with Gantz. The question is how cohesive Gantz's bloc remains. They lost Orly Levy, which is tough. But if they keep their 61 seats together they still have a majority.

I'd ink agreements right away with YB and Labor, make sure the Joint List has what they need to give their votes to Gantz from the outside, and just get it done. Dare Hauser and Handel to bring their own government down. At the very least it may evoke actual concessions from the Likud in unity discussions, like separating from the right bloc, as Bibi sees that his rule is truly in peril.

[Walmart_shopper]

Tomorrow at noon Benny Gantz will receive the mandate to form a government.

בהצלחה, חבר.

[BP🌹]

Can't wait for him to kill another 2,000 Gazans.

[CumbrianLefty]

Does this mean we could FINALLY be seeing the back of Netanyahu?

[Walmart_shopper]

Does this mean we could FINALLY be seeing the back of Netanyahu?

We'll see! It feels like we are pretty close, but there is still a bit to go.

[Walmart_shopper]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

[Hnv1]

Yael German will not be sworn in due to her medical condition and number 34 in the B&W list Aidan Roll would be sworn instead. Another gay MK.

German was a sure in for ministerial post for any government formed, so I guess Orna Barbivai is quite happy. She was the minister of health between 2013-15 and mayor of Raanana (by Meretz) for some 15 years.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

Simply not allowing a vote to replace him when there's a majority to do so seems like the kind of power that a Speaker probably shouldn't, uh, have.

[Hnv1]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

Simply not allowing a vote to replace him when there's a majority to do so seems like the kind of power that a Speaker probably shouldn't, uh, have.

He doesn’t. He’s procrastinating

[Walmart_shopper]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

Simply not allowing a vote to replace him when there's a majority to do so seems like the kind of power that a Speaker probably shouldn't, uh, have.

He doesn’t. He’s procrastinating

He's auditioning to be Bibi's replacement as Likud leader.

[Zinneke]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

Simply not allowing a vote to replace him when there's a majority to do so seems like the kind of power that a Speaker probably shouldn't, uh, have.

He doesn’t. He’s procrastinating

He's auditioning to be Bibi's replacement as Likud leader.

I'm really surprised actually as to how and why the Likudniks behind Bibi haven't thought of stabbing in the back yet, outside of the leadership...can they not see political opportunity in getting rid of their leader in favour of their own selves? Why haven't some tried to outflank Bibi to the Right while still maintaining themselves within the Likud and talking about Bibi getting a decent send off with immunity? How did the party become such a 1 man cult?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I'm really surprised actually as to how and why the Likudniks behind Bibi haven't thought of stabbing in the back yet, outside of the leadership...can they not see political opportunity in getting rid of their leader in favour of their own selves? Why haven't some tried to outflank Bibi to the Right while still maintaining themselves within the Likud and talking about Bibi getting a decent send off with immunity? How did the party become such a 1 man cult?

They see in his end the end of their careers as well, because without the extraordinary polarisation the second half of his second premiership has brought to Israel they would not be MKs.

[Kingpoleon]

There are maybe half a dozen Likud MKs with the brains to not collapse the party. And the first one to backstab Netanyahu is either going to be joined by the others or else tossed out of the party by the other five after he does their dirty work of getting rid of Netanyahu. So I suspect whichever Likud member takes out Netanyahu does so at the expense of their own political career.

[jaichind]

I'm really surprised actually as to how and why the Likudniks behind Bibi haven't thought of stabbing in the back yet, outside of the leadership...can they not see political opportunity in getting rid of their leader in favour of their own selves? Why haven't some tried to outflank Bibi to the Right while still maintaining themselves within the Likud and talking about Bibi getting a decent send off with immunity? How did the party become such a 1 man cult?

They see in his end the end of their careers as well, because without the extraordinary polarisation the second half of his second premiership has brought to Israel they would not be MKs.

I always figured it was because all polls seems to show that Likud led by Netanyahu always polls a lot better than Likud led any anyone else.

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

[Velasco]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, its MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are no good choices in Israeli politics, face it

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I always figured it was because all polls seems to show that Likud led by Netanyahu always polls a lot better than Likud led any anyone else.

In theory. But in practice things would start cracking up as the usual centrifugal pressures in Israeli politics resume.

[Hnv1]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

It was the wish of the majority of the Palestinian-Israeli population . I’ll let them know they need to consult the brave keyboard warriors of America first next time

[jaymichaud]

The right wing is back to hyperventilating about a minority government. Knesset speaker Yuli Edelstein says that he will not allow a vote to replace him, which the Gantz bloc had planned to do tomorrow after MKs are sworn in. The move basically puts Gantz up against a wall and makes a minority government the only real option for KL at this point. Hopefully he is really quick to put the coalition agreements in ink.

Simply not allowing a vote to replace him when there's a majority to do so seems like the kind of power that a Speaker probably shouldn't, uh, have.

He doesn’t. He’s procrastinating

He's auditioning to be Bibi's replacement as Likud leader.

I'm really surprised actually as to how and why the Likudniks behind Bibi haven't thought of stabbing in the back yet, outside of the leadership...can they not see political opportunity in getting rid of their leader in favour of their own selves? Why haven't some tried to outflank Bibi to the Right while still maintaining themselves within the Likud and talking about Bibi getting a decent send off with immunity? How did the party become such a 1 man cult?

I thought Ayelet Shaked would have tried to stick the knife in or try and take him down from the inside of the R-R bloc, but nothing. She really isn't the gutsy woman she portrays herself as.

[jaymichaud]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, their MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are not good choices in Israeli politics, face it

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[Velasco]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, their MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are not good choices in Israeli politics, face it

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Take a grip bro

[BP🌹]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

It was the wish of the majority of the Palestinian-Israeli population . I’ll let them know they need to consult the brave keyboard warriors of America first next time

Don't even. TSA is Palestinian and has family in both "Israel proper" and the West Bank.

It's funny how I never hear you guys criticize pro-Israel American evangelicals like this.

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, their MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are not good choices in Israeli politics, face it

Leave if you're not gonna contribute anything interesting/constructive 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah. He should strive to be the amazing, insightful poster that you are.

[Hnv1]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

It was the wish of the majority of the Palestinian-Israeli population . I’ll let them know they need to consult the brave keyboard warriors of America first next time

Don't even. TSA is Palestinian and has family in both "Israel proper" and the West Bank.

It's funny how I never hear you guys criticize pro-Israel American evangelicals like this.

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, their MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are not good choices in Israeli politics, face it

Leave if you're not gonna contribute anything interesting/constructive 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yeah. He should strive to be the amazing, insightful poster that you are.

I think I voiced my strong dislike of the Jewish Right in America on more than one occasion, the same applies to the Palestinian expats who are quite similar in being more “radical”. It’s always easier to be radical when you don’t live through the ramifications.

The JL has the highest turnout ever because their public wanted them to help Gantz oust Bibi. I think they understand their needs better than our vigilantes here

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

It was the wish of the majority of the Palestinian-Israeli population . I’ll let them know they need to consult the brave keyboard warriors of America first next time

Don't even. TSA is Palestinian and has family in both "Israel proper" and the West Bank.

It's funny how I never hear you guys criticize pro-Israel American evangelicals like this.

It's a mistake by the Joint List to recommend Gantz, he's worse than Netanyahu when it comes to the peace plan.

Gantz is just the lesser evil and the only alternative to the establishment of a full apartheid ethno-estate by the Israeli hard right. If the Joint List does not recommend this centre-right zionist, their MKs will render useless and irrelevant. Gantz is bad, but the alternative is abominable. There are not good choices in Israeli politics, face it

Leave if you're not gonna contribute anything interesting/constructive ‍♂️

Yeah. He should strive to be the amazing, insightful poster that you are.

I think I voiced my strong dislike of the Jewish Right in America on more than one occasion, the same applies to the Palestinian expats who are quite similar in being more “radical”. It’s always easier to be radical when you don’t live through the ramifications.

The JL has the highest turnout ever because their public wanted them to help Gantz oust Bibi. I think they understand their needs better than our vigilantes here

As did my family and I share their sentiments as well they absolutely hate Gantz but their hatred of Bibi was stronger all I said was i think going into a coalition in the future will be a mistake and why it's likely to fall apart the second bibi is gone. It's incredibly lucky that Gantz and the Joint List were able to get together with Liberman to make this happen in the first place which is what i was initially trying to say.

Also I'm not really radical I have much to criticize among the Palestinian side