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Question: Which Party Would You Most Support In This Three Party System?
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« on: November 13, 2022, 07:50:54 PM »
« edited: November 13, 2022, 07:55:34 PM by Real Populism’s Never Been Tried »

Party 1: Democratic Party: Made up of the Left-Wing of the Democratic Party plus Greens, DSA, Communists, and the left-wing of the Libertarian Party. The party has moved left on economics due to the Moderate Party taking the party's moderate/Establishment wings. Most people are socially and economically progressive, although the Establishment wing is more likely to support policies such as Internationalism, Fair Trade, and Atlanticism. The anti-establishment wing is prone to Conspiracy theories.

Position: Center Left-Left Wing with Far Left factions

Main:
Social Progressivism
Anti-Conservatism
Anti-Fascism
Anti-Racism
Social Democracy
Left-Wing Populism
Democratic Socialism

Factions:
Alter-Globalism
Anti-Americanism
Anti-Atlanticism
Anti-Christianity
Anti-Globalism
Anti-Imperialism
Anti-Liberalism
Anti-Militarism
Anti-West
Anti-Zionism
Eco-Socialism
Left-Libertarianism
Libertarian Socialism
Socialism of the 21st Century
Economic Nationalism
Left-Wing Nationalism
Marxism
Direct Democracy
Republicanism
Conspiratorialism

Party 2: Moderate Party. The establishment wings of the Democratic, Republican & Libertarian Parties. They were formed as a reaction to the left/right wings of their respective parties. Most party members can be described as socially liberal and fiscally conservative, although a socially conservative "neoconservative" and a fiscally liberal "Third Way" wing also exists.

Main:
Pro-Democracy
Neoliberalism
Atlanticism
Anti-Nationalism
Anti-Populism
Anti-"Woke"
Moderatism

Factions:
Liberalism
Social Liberalism
Fiscal Conservatism
Conservatism
Libertarianism
Neoconservatism
Social Conservatism
Third Way

Position: Center Left-Center Right with Right Wing Factions

Party 3: Republican Party. A combination of Trumpism, the Alt-right, the right-wing of the Libertarian Party and many neo-Nazi/Fascist movements once considered to be fringe. Highly prone to conspiracy theories including Qanon. The creation of the moderate party has led the party to moderate, particularly on economic as well as non-cultural realted social issues, while hardening on issues relating to nationalism and cultural conservatism.

Main:
Anti-Communism
Anti-Feminism
Anti-Globalism
Anti-Illegal Immigration
Anti-Multiculturalism
Anti-Progressivism
Anti-Socialism
Economic Nationalism
"America-First" Nationalism
Right-Wing Populism

Factions:
Alt-Lite
Alt-Right
Conservatism
Social Conservatism
Fiscal Conservatism
Libertarian Conservatism
Anti-Environmentalism
Anti-Islam
Anti-Liberalism
Anti-Neoconservatism
Anti-Neoliberalism
Anti-West
Anti-Zionism
Zionism
Christian Nationalism
Ultranationalism
Conspiratorialism
Neo-Fascism
Trumpism
Third Positionism
Welfare Chauvism
White Nationalism

Position: Right wing-Far Right

Which party would you most likely support? Personally I'd support the least radical one, usually the Moderate Party but I'd be willing to support a moderate member of the Left or Right Party.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2022, 08:01:22 PM »

Swing between Democrats and Moderates
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2022, 09:00:30 PM »

Are we saying all three are about equally strong (which I always read into these kinds of scenarios)?

Probably usually Moderate, although I think I'd be marginally winnable for the Republicans depending on the exact candidates in my district and the relative strengths of the factions you're describing. I would either exist on the far-right fringe of the Moderates or the far-anti-government fringe of the Republicans, and wouldn't quite be comfortable in either organization. Would still continue voting out of hatred for the Democrats here, though.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2022, 12:09:52 AM »

Are we saying all three are about equally strong (which I always read into these kinds of scenarios)?

Probably usually Moderate, although I think I'd be marginally winnable for the Republicans depending on the exact candidates in my district and the relative strengths of the factions you're describing. I would either exist on the far-right fringe of the Moderates or the far-anti-government fringe of the Republicans, and wouldn't quite be comfortable in either organization. Would still continue voting out of hatred for the Democrats here, though.
I modeled this off of a more extreme UK model. Typically because of the bipartisan appeal to the Moderate Party, it acts as a spoiler to either party depending on who's nominated, although moderates are typically not elected at the federal level due to these spoilers not unlike the Liberal Democrats. Similar to our timeline, Democrats are the strongest in urban and majority-minority areas ,while Republicans are the strongest in rural white areas, and the Moderates would be the strongest in the suburbs and swing-states and easily makes the E.C. less predictable as a result.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2022, 02:48:01 AM »

Are we saying all three are about equally strong (which I always read into these kinds of scenarios)?

Probably usually Moderate, although I think I'd be marginally winnable for the Republicans depending on the exact candidates in my district and the relative strengths of the factions you're describing. I would either exist on the far-right fringe of the Moderates or the far-anti-government fringe of the Republicans, and wouldn't quite be comfortable in either organization. Would still continue voting out of hatred for the Democrats here, though.
I modeled this off of a more extreme UK model. Typically because of the bipartisan appeal to the Moderate Party, it acts as a spoiler to either party depending on who's nominated, although moderates are typically not elected at the federal level due to these spoilers not unlike the Liberal Democrats. Similar to our timeline, Democrats are the strongest in urban and majority-minority areas ,while Republicans are the strongest in rural white areas, and the Moderates would be the strongest in the suburbs and swing-states and easily makes the E.C. less predictable as a result.
If you had an Alaska-style voting system, how do you think things would shake out?
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2022, 06:17:49 AM »

"Bellwether" doesn't mean "swing voter".
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2022, 01:09:26 PM »

Are we saying all three are about equally strong (which I always read into these kinds of scenarios)?

Probably usually Moderate, although I think I'd be marginally winnable for the Republicans depending on the exact candidates in my district and the relative strengths of the factions you're describing. I would either exist on the far-right fringe of the Moderates or the far-anti-government fringe of the Republicans, and wouldn't quite be comfortable in either organization. Would still continue voting out of hatred for the Democrats here, though.
I modeled this off of a more extreme UK model. Typically because of the bipartisan appeal to the Moderate Party, it acts as a spoiler to either party depending on who's nominated, although moderates are typically not elected at the federal level due to these spoilers not unlike the Liberal Democrats. Similar to our timeline, Democrats are the strongest in urban and majority-minority areas ,while Republicans are the strongest in rural white areas, and the Moderates would be the strongest in the suburbs and swing-states and easily makes the E.C. less predictable as a result.
If you had an Alaska-style voting system, how do you think things would shake out?
Likely moderate would have a strong advantage in this case and I guess I underestimated moderates appeal since it’s most of the Establishment which most voters of both parties tend to like.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2022, 02:15:38 PM »

I mean, I guess Party 1. I wouldn't belong to an explicitly fiscally conservative party. But I imagine I would have my issues with the more extreme folks in Party 1.
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2022, 05:39:55 PM »

I mean, I guess Party 1. I wouldn't belong to an explicitly fiscally conservative party. But I imagine I would have my issues with the less extreme folks in Party 1.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2022, 06:47:09 PM »

I would stay an Independent or join the (right wing of the) Democratic Party under an open primary system, or join a minor party. I would be open to supporting a candidate from any of the three parties, ruling out of the far left and far right.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2022, 08:35:46 PM »

I'd commit voter fraud for the Moderates.
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2022, 09:37:46 AM »

Party 2, so long as they have a commitment to appointing objective interpreters of law to the SCOTUS.
Note: not "moderate" people, like Sandra Day O'Connor or Lewis Powell, but objective. They should appoint people like Justice Hugo Black and Judge Learned Hand.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2022, 11:07:03 AM »

Party 2 obviously
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2022, 06:54:14 PM »

Probably party 2 but often voting for party 3 candidates
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2022, 03:22:31 AM »

D most of the time, but obviously open to the moderates if a candidate from the crazy wing wings the D primary
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2022, 09:57:00 AM »

This is basically "what if America became like France."
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2022, 05:32:44 PM »

Obvious Party 2 is obvious.

Shouldn't surprise anybody, but: 2 >>> 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2022, 06:20:50 PM »

The Republican Party is the only sane one.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2022, 08:55:37 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2022, 09:00:16 PM by Lincoln General Court Representative Christian Man »

This is basically "what if America became like France."
Now that you mention it, you're right. I was originally thinking of the UK but most Europe countries are similar to this politically.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2022, 09:32:13 PM »

Swing between Democrats and Moderates
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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2022, 08:10:59 PM »

Moderate party, of course.
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