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« on: September 26, 2021, 09:08:56 AM »

2 pm in-person turnout is 36.5% compared to 41.1% in 2017 and 41.4% in 2013, mail voters not included in these figures.

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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2021, 09:53:13 AM »

Hubert Aiwanger, Bavaria's Deputy Minister-President and leader of the Free Voters, has shared confidential exit polls on Twitter, and now he might get into big trouble for that.
Major CDU overperformance if accurate.

This isn't necessarily in the order of highest to lowest though - can observe that Die Linke clearly has a single digit vote share but is grouped between FDP and AfD who both have double digit vote shares.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2021, 12:15:25 PM »

Updated ARD exit

24.7% Union 155+43 Seats
24.9% SPD 197 Seats
14.8% Green 117
11.3% AfD 89
11.2% FDP 88
5% Linke 40

An another indication of an Americanization of German elections:

Will the 2021 federal election turn into a 2016 US election? 🤔
The SPD might receive the most second votes while the Union could pickup more seats (thanks to overhang and leveling seats for the CSU.)
It would be extremely funny and ironic if the SSW seat (an SPD ally) was going to tip the scale.

I thought the leveling seats were assigned based on national results? Was the law changed since last time?

Here the Bundeswahlleiter provides an example calculation of how the seats are calculated now using the 2017 results as an example. I've been able to implement it in code but I find it hard to explain still, here's my best attempt to explain it regardless:

First, calculate how many seats each party should get by proportional vote in each state, then assign seats to each state based on this (scaled to 598)
Second, calculate the minimum number of seats a party is entitled to in a state - this is calculated by taking the maximum value of either the number of constituencies they won in a state, or the average value rounded up of the number of constituencies they won in a state and the proportional amount of seats they should receive in a state.
Third, calculate on a federal level, finding a divisor where the number of overhang seats (initially calculated by the cumulative number of excess seats a party won among each state) cumulatively among all parties would be reduced to 3 or less, then add those excess overhang seats to each party's total.

In this case, the seat total can be heavily influenced based on the CSU performance, if they win many more constituencies relative to their second vote percentage, it can skew the Bundestag size upwards greatly.
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2021, 04:50:49 PM »


EuropeElects seat estimate. R2G short by 12, but Union definitely in second. Also probably the 1 from SSW, but we have no official data on S-H yet to judge.

There will be way more than 676 total seats considering how CSU is doing in Bavaria on constituencies relative to their 2nd vote share.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2021, 08:27:39 PM »

Anyone else happen to be trying to calculate total seats using the method displayed by the Bundeswahlletier's sample calculation?

These are the seat calculations I currently have, I don't not expect it to vary from these totals at this point

CDU/CSU: 196 (45 CSU)
SDP: 206
Greens: 118
FDP: 92
Left: 39
FDP: 83
Total 734

SSW should also get 1 seat - I expect them to take a seat from someone but I am not completely sure yet (pretty sure it won't be from SDP though).
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2021, 08:36:24 PM »

Berlin Marzahn-Hellersdorf flipping is really odd. CDU has done worse in every seat on first vote compared to 2017, except Berlin Marzahn-Hellersdorf which they did 7.2% better in.
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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2021, 10:40:25 PM »

Final Result:



Seats: SPD 206, CDU 151, Grüne 118, FDP 92, AfD 83, CSU 45, Linke 39, SSW 1
Total: 735, Majority: 368

Traffic Light: 416
Jamaica: 406
R2G: 363, short by 5

Constituency Map:



Which one did SSW win? Or is theirs from the proportional part because they’re an ethnic interest party? I think I vaguely remember hearing something about them being exempt from the 5% or 3 constituencies rule?

Yeah they're completely exempt from 5% rule at federal and state level as they're a recognized national minority. As long as they earned enough share of the vote to win a seat they'd gain a seat (~2.3% would've been minimum in Schleswig-Holstein).
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2021, 11:19:13 PM »

Bundeswahlleiter shows seat distribution on their website, presumably the provisional election results

SPD 206
CDU/CSU 196 (45 CSU)
Greens 118
FDP 92
AfD 83
Left 39
SSW 1
Total 735
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