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Question: Protesters made a giant inflatable Trump wearing a KKK robe. Is this a fair depiction of Trump's campaign ?
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Yes, 100% fair depiction of trump's campaign
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Yes, somewhat fair depiction of trump's campaign
#3
No. This is not a fair depiction.
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ProudModerate2
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« on: June 19, 2016, 09:58:25 PM »
« edited: June 19, 2016, 10:02:23 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Question Sad Protesters made a giant inflatable Trump wearing a KKK robe. Is this a fair depiction of Trump's campaign ?

Watch the 1 minute YouTube video to see the giant inflatable Trump.
Here is the link :  https://youtu.be/ZWE4SiPspjQ

The inflatable includes a giant sign saying, MAKE AMERICA HATE AGAIN.
Vote and discuss.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 01:17:53 PM »

No, though your charming moderate temperament indicates otherwise.


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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 06:34:35 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2016, 06:51:25 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Fair? Perhaps not when you get down to the nuances of it.
Deserved? Absolutely!

The laws of our country, laws that were formulated before Trump had his first date with Ivana, call for the deportation of folks who are in the country illegally.

Is it racist to expect these laws be enforced?  Trump didn't write them, but he is calling for their enforcement.  Is he wrong?

I understand the counter-argument for this (well, one of the counter-arguments, anyway).  It's the call for broad-based reform that addresses the problem of our porous border along with some kind of amnesty for those already here.  It's sensible to a point, and I am open to an exception for "Dreamers" who were brought here by their parents and who know nothing of life anywhere else.  

But I also note that this has been tried before, and the porous borders have never been addressed.  On top of that, the Democratic Party is SO beholden to the Hispanic vote that they pretty much advocate a policy of "If you get here, you can stay here!".  The Democrats haven't come out with that yet, but I predict they will in time.

Our immigration laws aren't racist.  They're protectionistic, but what's wrong with that?  It's one thing for our government to help create opportunity for other Americans, but it's NOT our job to create opportunities for the rest of the world.  We don't need any more immigrants, and we need to enforce our current laws to have an effect on those who would think about illegally entering the United States, or illegally overstaying their visa.  Is that outrageous?

And what about trump's derogatory remark towards U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, an American citizen born in Indiana, of Mexican origin.
Was this a racist comment ? Of course it is !
Was it wrong for trump to say this ? Yes !

This is the problem with you trump supporters. Somehow you can block things like this from reaching your brain cells (with the little yall have). You only concentrate on the things that make you "feel good," but the bad stuff from trump just doesn't exist.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 07:00:08 PM »

Fair? Perhaps not when you get down to the nuances of it.
Deserved? Absolutely!

The laws of our country, laws that were formulated before Trump had his first date with Ivana, call for the deportation of folks who are in the country illegally.

Is it racist to expect these laws be enforced?  Trump didn't write them, but he is calling for their enforcement.  Is he wrong?

I understand the counter-argument for this (well, one of the counter-arguments, anyway).  It's the call for broad-based reform that addresses the problem of our porous border along with some kind of amnesty for those already here.  It's sensible to a point, and I am open to an exception for "Dreamers" who were brought here by their parents and who know nothing of life anywhere else.  

But I also note that this has been tried before, and the porous borders have never been addressed.  On top of that, the Democratic Party is SO beholden to the Hispanic vote that they pretty much advocate a policy of "If you get here, you can stay here!".  The Democrats haven't come out with that yet, but I predict they will in time.

Our immigration laws aren't racist.  They're protectionistic, but what's wrong with that?  It's one thing for our government to help create opportunity for other Americans, but it's NOT our job to create opportunities for the rest of the world.  We don't need any more immigrants, and we need to enforce our current laws to have an effect on those who would think about illegally entering the United States, or illegally overstaying their visa.  Is that outrageous?

And what about trump's derogatory remark towards U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, an American citizen born in Indiana, of Mexican origin.
Was this a racist comment ? Of course it is !
Was it wrong for trump to say this ? Yes !

This is the problem with you trump supporters. Somehow you can block things like this from reaching your brain cells (with the little yall have). You only concentrate on the things that make you "feel good," but the bad stuff from trump just doesn't exist.


Over my lifetime, I have seen all sorts of American-born politicians throw national interest to the wind to advocate policies that reflect the sentiments of their ethnic group, or their constituents of their ethnic group.  I've seen Jewish-American politicians urge rejection of the Iranian trade deal because Bibi Netanyahu is against it, but I've seen Arab-American politicians (Former Democratic Sen. James Abouresk of South Dakota comes to mind.) vote against measures designed to support Israel down the line.  I've seen Greek-American politicians vote against aid to Turkey when Greece and Turkey were in conflict on Cyprus, regardless of the fact that at the time, Greece was ruled by a military junta and Turkey was an indispensable  Cold War ally.  I've seen Irish-American politicians not hide their support for Noraid, which funded the IRA in Northern Ireland, eschewing more moderate voices that (thank God) ultimately prevailed.

I note that Trump's lawyers aren't asking for a recusal, and I agree that Trump probably should have shut up on the issue.  But Judge Curiel is just another politician, and Trump has seen the things I've seen over time.  Not too many folks on either side of the aisle and spectrum TRULY put America First.  Remember the response in debate Trump received when he suggested he could serve as an "Honest Broker" in the Israeli-Palestinian matter?  Were people even open to the principle that such a role by an American President might be in America's best interest?

Trump's campaign is an "America First" campaign, and it's long overdue.

My right arm is itching, and you go and scratch my left arm.
Complete denial and deflection in your entire response.
First of all, Curiel is not a politician, he is a federal judge.
So your entire statement goes out the window. It's convenient for you to try to portray Curiel as "a politician" to fit your argument. But you fail greatly.
The next thing trump and his campaign will fool his followers, is to get them to believe that the bag-boy at my local supermarket, is also "technically a politician."
Ugggggggggggg.
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