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« Reply #1250 on: October 06, 2008, 08:55:16 AM »


No, we've just been hearing that particular line for decades, most notably after Clinton raised taxes in '93.
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« Reply #1251 on: October 06, 2008, 09:02:50 AM »


No, we've just been hearing that particular line for decades, most notably after Clinton raised taxes in '93.

It's not a line.

Even if given all the facts, you would still not believe me.
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« Reply #1252 on: October 06, 2008, 09:04:03 AM »

The world will not come to an end if Obama is elected President, geez.

I'm more worried about continued deflation of the credit bubble and what it naturally leads to (currency deflation and economic collapse).  Which in turn, historically, has always led to war.
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« Reply #1253 on: October 06, 2008, 09:05:01 AM »

The world will not come to an end if Obama is elected President, geez.

I'm more worried about continued deflation of the credit bubble and what it naturally leads to (currency deflation and economic collapse).  Which in turn, historically, has always led to war.

I didn't say the world would end. I said the economy will collapse.
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« Reply #1254 on: October 06, 2008, 09:06:26 AM »

It's not a line.

Even if given all the facts, you would still not believe me.

You're right. Who needs facts? I have the audacity of hope. YES WE CAN!

YES WE CAN!
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« Reply #1255 on: October 06, 2008, 09:07:54 AM »

The world will not come to an end if Obama is elected President, geez.

I'm more worried about continued deflation of the credit bubble and what it naturally leads to (currency deflation and economic collapse).  Which in turn, historically, has always led to war.

I didn't say the world would end. I said the economy will collapse.

Don't worry. Once the messiah is elected, he'll fix the economy with a snip of his finger.
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« Reply #1256 on: October 06, 2008, 09:08:53 AM »

It's not a line.

Even if given all the facts, you would still not believe me.

You're right. Who needs facts? I have the audacity of hope. YES WE CAN!

YES WE CAN!

Basically. There is no reason to support such a failure of a person and senator.
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« Reply #1257 on: October 06, 2008, 09:09:53 AM »

The world will not come to an end if Obama is elected President, geez.

I'm more worried about continued deflation of the credit bubble and what it naturally leads to (currency deflation and economic collapse).  Which in turn, historically, has always led to war.

I didn't say the world would end. I said the economy will collapse.

The economy may collapse anyway.  The government can, in reality, do very little (most of the time). 

Wall Street will likely fall further if and when Obama gets elected.  That much I can tell you.  I wouldn't even think of buying stocks until the market hits 8000, at minimum, right now.
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« Reply #1258 on: October 06, 2008, 09:11:13 AM »

I'm more worried about continued deflation of the credit bubble and what it naturally leads to (currency deflation and economic collapse).  Which in turn, historically, has always led to war.

yep
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« Reply #1259 on: October 06, 2008, 09:11:55 AM »

It's not a line.

Even if given all the facts, you would still not believe me.

You're right. Who needs facts? I have the audacity of hope. YES WE CAN!

YES WE CAN!

Basically. There is no reason to support such a failure of a person and senator.

YES WE CAN!
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« Reply #1260 on: October 06, 2008, 09:14:18 AM »

I wonder if GA is in play with an 8 point lead...
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« Reply #1261 on: October 06, 2008, 09:17:34 AM »

I wonder if GA is in play with an 8 point lead...

I´m more interested in West Virginia ...
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« Reply #1262 on: October 06, 2008, 09:21:40 AM »

Say goodbye to the economy... and your jobs.

=the past 8 years of the Bush presidency.
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« Reply #1263 on: October 06, 2008, 09:22:10 AM »

I wonder if GA is in play with an 8 point lead...

No way. It was 14 points more Republican than the national average in 2004. Only Southern states that are plausible: VA, NC, FL. Even locally Democratic AR seems very resistant to an Obama presidency.
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« Reply #1264 on: October 06, 2008, 09:22:25 AM »

Say goodbye to the economy... and your jobs.

Yeah right Roll Eyes. I'm no economist but surely it can't be just coincidence that since 1948, Democratic presidents have had a better track record on economic growth, rising prosperity and job creation.

Bush cut taxes the Republican way, that is give most to those who don't need it and less to those who do - and look to where he has brought the American economy. McCain promises more of the same

The fact is George W Bush will leave office with his country in worse shape than he found it. The Republican presidential nominee, rather than the Democratic one, has been complicit in that

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« Reply #1265 on: October 06, 2008, 09:23:40 AM »
« Edited: October 06, 2008, 09:34:48 AM by Zarn »

You guys are just going over the talking points, again.

My problem with Obama is not that he is a Dem. It is that he is Obama. I use to think he would be okay as president, certainly better than Hillary. Only recently have I found out that he is much, much worse. I use to think she was more authoritarian and corrupt. I was dead wrong. I let him make me belief he was someone who wasn't purely political. I was dead wrong, again. The more I learn, the more I realize he is the worst possible choice the Dems had.

If you think the upper class can support both the bailout and fund new social programs, you are living with a blindfold. You do realize that hurts businesses, right? You cannot cripple the top (in poor economic conditions, especially), and expect the economy to grow. It is not going to work, and middle income will be taxed to make up for the lack of income. So now everyone is taxed more heavily (except the poor). Then more people need government services, because they have no money, so they aren't acting as consumers, and they lose their jobs (since no one is consuming as much).
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« Reply #1266 on: October 06, 2008, 09:25:51 AM »

I should point out that I will rate the presidency of George W Bush as something of a success story if he leaves office with a record budget surplus, which is what he came to office inheriting

I cannot be any fairer than that. Oh, Bin Laden is still at large, but, credit where credit is due, there have been no more 9/11s

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« Reply #1267 on: October 06, 2008, 09:27:07 AM »

The DOW is now below 10,000, the economy IS already collapsing.
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« Reply #1268 on: October 06, 2008, 09:31:12 AM »

The DOW is now below 10,000, the economy IS already collapsing.

If you think the DOW below 10,000 is the economy collapsing, that's a pretty naive view.  I suspect it's only just the beginning. 10,000 may look nice fairly soon.
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« Reply #1269 on: October 06, 2008, 09:31:44 AM »

The DOW is now below 10,000, the economy IS already collapsing.

If you think the DOW below 10,000 is the economy collapsing, that's a pretty naive view.  I suspect it's only just the beginning. 10,000 may look nice fairly soon.

'collapsing' is a verb.
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« Reply #1270 on: October 06, 2008, 09:36:32 AM »

The DOW is now below 10,000, the economy IS already collapsing.

Which makes me wonder why we couldn't get the private industry to invest in itslef. Some Conbgressman had pretty decent ideas (although probably a bit raw). It was much better than the bailout.
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« Reply #1271 on: October 06, 2008, 09:37:21 AM »

Monday - October 6, 2008:

Obama - 52% (+1)
McCain - 44% (nc)

Favorability

Obama: 56% favorable; 42% unfavorable (-1, nc)
McCain: 53% favorable; 47% unfavorable (nc, +2)

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« Reply #1272 on: October 06, 2008, 09:39:52 AM »

Time to start looking to 2012. Who's up? Palin? Romney? Huck?
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« Reply #1273 on: October 06, 2008, 09:41:21 AM »

Time to start looking to 2012. Who's up? Palin? Romney? Huck?

With those names, you should start looking to 2016
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« Reply #1274 on: October 06, 2008, 09:43:15 AM »

Time to start looking to 2012. Who's up? Palin? Romney? Huck?

With those names, you should start looking to 2016

Believe me, if the economy doesn't improve in the next 4 years, Obama will be out in a heartbeat. Anyone will be able to beat him.
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