Trump says he hopes Clinton runs again in 2020

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Huh, sounds as smug as all the Dems wanting to face Trump or Cruz.

Trump has already beaten Clinton though.

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Huh, sounds as smug as all the Dems wanting to face Trump or Cruz.

Trump has already beaten Clinton though.

By a Deus Ex Comeyina and an overall 3 million vote loss, sure. No guarantee he'll land the correct states to get over the line.

If the Comey letter was the reason she lost then that's sad because Trump faced a million tougher things than she did (not even including the self inflicted wounds). You're like an 18-0 NFL team who blames the ref for losing the Super Bowl.

Not to mention she spent like 3 times of what he did (despite the fact leftists are against "Citizens United "lmao) and he still beat her because as a businessman he knows how to use his money to get results, unlike a career politician who has no concept of spending money.

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I get the feeling that it’s going to happen. She doesn’t seem to be done with politics from what I’ve seen and heard. She and Bill also have zero shame, which is another good reason to believe she will make another run. I think Hillary 2020 would be equal parts frustrating and hilarious. I think Trump would wipe the floor with her and the debates would be epic (could you just see Trump dropping the line, “That’s why you keep losing elections, Hillary”), but I’m also quite sick of her and to have to endure another one of her campaigns would be exhausting.

The worst part is that she would probably waltz to the nomination again, since the superdelegates would predictably have her back and there are no Obamas out there to challenge her.

I think she'll pull a Romney and flirt with a run in early 2019, only for the backlash to be so intense she decides not to run.

However, if she DOES run, she likely won't even make it to Iowa. But then again, with how the Establishment is STILL fawning over her you may be right in terms of superdelegates.

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Not only would she win the nomination, but the MSM would STILL treat her as an inevitable colossus who is guaranteed to be the next president. Even after she lost twice.

2 weeks ago I would have laughed at this, and said you were wrong. She may flirt with running again, but then drop out during the "invisible" primary (a la Mitt Romney).

Then I saw this Jimmy Fallon "Thank You Hillary" video (warning: the cringe is UNREAL): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzeQ1Z3Ut0

And now I am pretty much convinced you're right. That video is North Korean levels of worship. And the crazy thing is? Fallon is apolitical or wants to be at least. So for him to do this REALLY indicates they will sextuple down on Hillary Clinton!

The "It's her turn" wasn't just a slogan - but the rule of LAW to Democrats. It is HER frickin turn, it's HER rightful throne. It's called Hysteria. Induced by losing what they deemed to be their rightful throne, and any reasoning behind their loss CANNOT be legal or logical as it was rightfully theirs. Therefore, it was clearly Russian interference.

Hillary Clinton has become what her former boss would call a "bitter clinger."

Let me ask you this - if she DOES run in 2020 (I say it's a 30% chance now!), she gets the nomination but then she loses again, do you think she'll try to run AGAIN in 2024?

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Exactly he wants to relive his past / victory,  rather then confront the harsh reality of his lack of accomplishments and dismal approval ratings.

The reason this is happening is because the Establishment NEVER expected him to win.

The GOP Establishment NEVER had the intention of repealing and replacing Obamace. They'd virtue signal to their constituents all the time and send a million bills for Obama to veto every day.

That's why 2018 is so important - not only must the GOP win a supermajority in the Senate, but the new GOP Senators MUST be Trumplicans.

McCain, Murkowski, and Collins will take the fall so it will be interesting to see if (when) the GOP gets 62 seats if they will take the fall AGAIN.

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Exactly he wants to relive his past / victory,  rather then confront the harsh reality of his lack of accomplishments and dismal approval ratings.

The reason this is happening is because the Establishment NEVER expected him to win.

The GOP Establishment NEVER had the intention of repealing and replacing Obamace. They'd virtue signal to their constituents all the time and send a million bills for Obama to veto every day.

That's why 2018 is so important - not only must the GOP win a supermajority in the Senate, but the new GOP Senators MUST be Trumplicans.

McCain, Murkowski, and Collins will take the fall so it will be interesting to see if (when) the GOP gets 62 seats if they will take the fall AGAIN.

What accomplishments can be pointed to? Accomplishments as in plural. All he can spout is 2016, it’s tired. People will want something at some point rather then living in the past daily which is what this Clinton talk is really about.

It comes down to 2018.

Trump is a true outsider - when Obama said "I continue to believe Trump will not be President" he was serious. Trump was never supposed to win.

My biggest problem with Trump is that he desperately wants to be loved by the Establishment. He needs to quit trying to appease them and focus on MAGA. If Trump continues to appease the Establishment though he will face the same fate as Luther Strange.

One thing I wish Trump would do was increase immigration law enforcement 1,000-fold (literally) and start deportations faster.

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I think 2020 will be her last hurrah, only because I don’t think she will have the physical stamina for a presidential campaign by the time she is 77. She had some health issues in 2016 after all, and being eight years older won’t help matters. I also think Obama will repudiate her if she loses the 2020 GE...something along the lines of, “I have the utmost respect for Mrs. Clinton and her lifetime of service to our country, but the Democratic Party needs a new face.”

Those are the only things that would stop her, though. Had Hillary been born in 1957 instead of 1947, she would definitely consider it.

TBH I think she'd still try to run for President even if she's in hospice care.

At this point she DESPERATELY wants to go down in history as the first woman President. Her Presidency could be shorter than Harrison's but as long as the history books say she's the first female President it's all good.

She really, really wants to be a feminist icon even though she's anything BUT. Like her former boss would say, she's a "bitter clinger."

Her losing in 2016 was so delightful for me. And of the reasons for that was because of how DESPERATELY she wanted to be the first female President. She didn't care about actually breaking that glass ceiling - she cared it would be HER that shattered it. She wants to be for women what Obama was for blacks but it's not even close.

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I don't think this is quite true. Every GOP Senator likely wanted to repeal and replace Obamacare, and had an idea of what the repeal/replace plan would look like. The problem is that Rand Paul or Mike Lee's vision for Obamacare repeal was drastically different from Susan Collins or Rob Portman's vision that they couldn't agree on anything.

The smart thing to do would have been to put a clear plan in the 2016 GOP platform, so that every Senator or Representative would go into the process knowing exactly what they were getting. The problem there is that the specifics may have turned some people off. (This is the same reason progressive Dems aren't really giving specifics for their "Healthcare for All" push).

Also, this process was a little bit rushed. If anything, they should have used the 2017 reconciliation for tax reform, where they could likely get faster agreement within the caucus. Then they would have had more than a year and a half to construct a healthcare bill that could get to 218 + 50.


As for Clinton running again, I think people may be overestimating the power of Dem superdelegates. Almost every Democrat I know is tired of Clinton to at least some degree, and I would imagine that many of her voters would ditch her for Harris, Biden, or possibly Gillibrand. I do think the Democrats realize that they won't win if Hillary is nominated again (or at least a good number of them do, including Biden), and will likely desert her for other people. I think the "heir to the throne" concept is probably the single most damaging thing the Dems can do to their 2020 chances.

The GOP Establishment (GOPe) would send like 50 bills to Obama's desk knowing he could veto it. But they could virtue signal to their voters and say "Look! See? the only reason we can't repeal Obamacare is because we need the Presidency! So elect Jeb Bush to help us!"

The GOPe thought Jeb Bush would win 2016 so they NEVER thought they'd actually have to repeal and replace Obamacare (Jeb Bush said he would, but he wouldn't have).

The GOPe not only expected Trump to lose, but WANTED him to not only lose, but lose big league. Lose bigger than McCain did in 2008.

I call the GOPe and the Democratic Establishment the "uniparty," because they're not any different. The one thing that actually DID shock me though was them not giving Garland a hearing - however, I actually think that was a play on BOTH sides (Obama thought Clinton would win).

McCain, Murkowski, and Collins took the fall in 2017. They needed 3 GOP Senators to abstain and those 3 chose to do it. I was wondering though if we had 54 GOP Senators (say, Heck and Ayotte won) who would have been number 4 and 5?

One thing that pisses me off about Trump is that he could have started 2017 with a bang with infrastructure. Infrastructure had bipartisan support and was super popular among the American people.

Instead he decided to write that dumb travel ban.

OR what Trump should have done (if he were smart) would have the house pass a clean repeal bill, and then have the Democrats kill it in the Senate via filibuster. so then claim he needs 60+ seats in 2018. Instead he looked like a damn fool.

If I were in Trump's position I'd be unstoppable.

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I think 2020 will be her last hurrah, only because I don’t think she will have the physical stamina for a presidential campaign by the time she is 77. She had some health issues in 2016 after all, and being eight years older won’t help matters. I also think Obama will repudiate her if she loses the 2020 GE...something along the lines of, “I have the utmost respect for Mrs. Clinton and her lifetime of service to our country, but the Democratic Party needs a new face.”

Those are the only things that would stop her, though. Had Hillary been born in 1957 instead of 1947, she would definitely consider it.

TBH I think she'd still try to run for President even if she's in hospice care.

At this point she DESPERATELY wants to go down in history as the first woman President. Her Presidency could be shorter than Harrison's but as long as the history books say she's the first female President it's all good.

She really, really wants to be a feminist icon even though she's anything BUT. Like her former boss would say, she's a "bitter clinger."

Her losing in 2016 was so delightful for me. And of the reasons for that was because of how DESPERATELY she wanted to be the first female President. She didn't care about actually breaking that glass ceiling - she cared it would be HER that shattered it. She wants to be for women what Obama was for blacks but it's not even close.

Perhaps she'd run, but that doesn't mean she'll go anywhere. Democrats are tired of her, and not just the ones out to the left. She's not going to be able to part the field automatically if she runs this time. There will be at least 6 or 7 other reasonable candidates. If she runs she'll lose badly in Iowa (probably placing like 4th or 3rd at best) and then will be forced to drop out (or, in any case, she'll be out of the race).

2 weeks ago I would've even went farther than that - if she DID enter the race, she wouldn't even make it to Iowa. She'd be Jim Webb.

Then I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzeQ1Z3Ut0

This is North Korean levels of worship. Not even Obama gets this level of worship.

And then with nearly every interview for What Happened, it's basically the interviewer worshipping Hillary and telling her how great she is. She got questioned ONCE about Bill's past a couple days ago and now she "hurt her foot" and won't appear on interviews since.

One lady from The View got FIRED for not being nice enough to the Queen.

Our so-called "Intelligence Community" literally wants to bring back the Cold War/start World War III because the cable news channel Russia Today didn't worship Hillary Clinton as much as CNN that Russia was "meddling" in our election. Although the RT was just as biased against Trump as Clinton the Intelligence Community has to defend their Queen.

Hillary NEEDS to be the first female President. It HAS to be her. She doesn't want the glass ceiling shattered - she wants HER to shatter it. Make no mistake about it -if Hillary gets in, she may force the Democrat party and media Establishment to back her.

If not, off to the gulags they go!

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The difference is the Comey letter was the last major event to happen in the election, and Americans have the attention span of a goldfish. If the Comey letter and Access Hollywood tape switched dates, you'd be looking at President Clinton and Majority Leader Schumer. So congrats on lucking out with timing.

Trump was getting hit hard the last month with fake sexual assault accusations, people pretending to care about his "I'll keep you in suspense" line, etc. etc.

All we heard in the last 30 days of the election was how Trump was a sore loser; that the election can't be rigged or hacked; that her ground game and data operation was unstoppable; etc. etc. The Comey letter was ENTIRELY her fault anyway.

Let's not rewrite history and pretend Trump had all these advantages. If she lost simply because of a letter then she was never meant to win.

Trump was simply the superior candidate.

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Jeb! was pretty much the face of the GOP Establishment. It didn't help him. Even without Trump in the election he wouldn't have won. If it were a straight one-way primary of Jeb! vs. Trump, then he may have actually won like Hillary did. The large field, however, completely sunk him. The same will happen to Hillary if she runs in 2020. Potential candidates aren't going to step aside for her. She'll face another reasonably strong challenge from the left, and possibly some reasonably strong candidates from the center (such as Biden or Tim Ryan). Democratic voters are just as tired of the "Heir to the Throne" thing as anyone else at this point. Even with EVERY superdelegate, I don't think she could get the votes to win.

Jeb! didn't have nearly as much power in the GOP as Clinton does in the Democrat party though.

Romney circa 2012 may be a better example but even he didn't have half the influence in the GOP that Clinton has with the Democrat party.

If Clinton gets in there is a good chance she gets Establishment support.

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Trump was simply the superior candidate.

LMAO.

What's so funny?

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Trump was simply the superior candidate.

LMAO.

What's so funny?

Usually the superior candidate wins the popular vote.

The superior candidate wins.

She spent way more than he did. She had so many Super PACs, spent more than Romney, and she still lost.

If anything getting 3 million more votes but losing makes her beyond incompetent. Why the heck would anyone want to vote for a party that is so incompetent?

Trump spent the least amount possible to get the best results. Like what a businessman does. Clinton is the typical politician who's never had a real job her entire life who spends and spends other people's money to get no results. Just like Jeb!.

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Trump who is ignorant of the fact that he is the president of the U.S. Virgin Islands is not a superior candidate to a former Secretary of State. Did he know how to manipulate the media better? Sure.

Manipulate the media? They were so against him it was hilarious.

Clinton had EVERY advantage and still lost. She had REPUBLICANS trying to help her win en masse.

Hell Trump was SABOTAGING his campaign and he still won.

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The difference is the Comey letter was the last major event to happen in the election, and Americans have the attention span of a goldfish. If the Comey letter and Access Hollywood tape switched dates, you'd be looking at President Clinton and Majority Leader Schumer. So congrats on lucking out with timing.

Trump was getting hit hard the last month with fake sexual assault accusations, people pretending to care about his "I'll keep you in suspense" line, etc. etc.

All we heard in the last 30 days of the election was how Trump was a sore loser; that the election can't be rigged or hacked; that her ground game and data operation was unstoppable; etc. etc. The Comey letter was ENTIRELY her fault anyway.

Let's not rewrite history and pretend Trump had all these advantages. If she lost simply because of a letter then she was never meant to win.

Trump was simply the superior candidate.

Yes, he was getting hit hard. Yes, Hillary had tons of advantages. And yes, the Access Hollywood tape was in October as well. But the point was the Comey letter was the final substantial event to influence the election, therefore it had the most impact. Americans have a notoriously short attention span, and even those that don't are still very prone to recency bias.

This isn't just my opinion by the way. There was major movement in the polls, in both private and public polling, after the Comey letter was released.

After all that happened in the election all it took to take her down was a letter?

Trump had to go through a million times more things (not including self inflicted wounds).

If she didn't want the Comey letter to be released she should've

a) Dump Huma Abedin (or make sure in 2013 she dumps Weiner)

b) NOT SET UP A PRIVATE EMAIL SERVER and then delete 33,000 emails

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A million more things and self inflicted wounds that were already down the memory hole by election day. Whether or not the Comey letter was her fault is immaterial to the discussion anyway. The point is, if it didn't happen or happened earlier, she would've won.

If people forgot the Access Hollywood tape and the dozen accusers by election night then America needs to be a dictatorship because the American people would be more stupid than a goldfish.

The media every day would remind us how Trump has no chance or that Clinton is preparing to win or that Trump's campaign was in disarray.

If the Access Hollywood tape didn't come out he would've won the popular vote and MN + NH + NV.

She had every advantage in the world. There's no excuse for that. If a simple letter brought her down then she was never meant to be President.

You have a PRIME Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Magic Johnson, Shaq, and Tim Duncan on your basketball team but you're blaming the refs for why you lost.

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Trump who is ignorant of the fact that he is the president of the U.S. Virgin Islands is not a superior candidate to a former Secretary of State. Did he know how to manipulate the media better? Sure.

Manipulate the media? They were so against him it was hilarious.

Clinton had EVERY advantage and still lost. She had REPUBLICANS trying to help her win en masse.

Hell Trump was SABOTAGING his campaign and he still won.

K.

Don't "LMAO" and then run away. Defend your claim. If he's such a bad candidate why did he win?

All I heard throughout the election was Trump "had no chance" or this is the "beginning of the end" for Trump (seriously google that phrase - hundreds of links) or he had a "1% chance" to win.

You know, for a guy who only had a "1% chance to win the nomination" he did pretty well in the 2016 race right?

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I'm glad we've reached a level of agreement here. Yay for bipartisanship!

Nah no agreement - I just laugh that Trump beat you guys so badly you've become irrational.

It's incredible that before the election Trump had no chance to win. Obama was even mocking Trump. Then after the election a single letter destroyed Clinton.

The American people proved rejected the Democrats' incompetency.

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If people forgot the Access Hollywood tape and the dozen accusers by election night then America needs to be a dictatorship because the American people would be more stupid than a goldfish.

The media every day would remind us how Trump has no chance or that Clinton is preparing to win or that Trump's campaign was in disarray.

I voted for Trump because of Access Hollywood.

Lol it almost made me drop support for him because I felt it was super weak that he tried to bed a married woman with furniture. Seriously, Trump?

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Don't "LMAO" and then run away. Defend your claim. If he's such a bad candidate why did he win?

I am not running away from anything. My statement that a man who is ignorant of the fact that he is the president of the U.S. Virgin Islands is not superior to a Secretary of State stands for what it is. I do not need to go back and forth as you regurgitate over and over that Trump pulled an upset. It does not make him a better leader than her.

And he won because most Americans vote selfishly and irresponsibly and little do actual fact checking. He was able to swindle the right people in the right states. Congratulations.

"Fact checking" - since when do Democrats care about facts?

And who cares about the U.S. Virgin Islands?

Clinton in 2012 said trade with Russia was a "win-win" and that it would "advance human rights" to trade with Putin.

Now we need to restart the Cold War because John Podesta fell for a phishing scam and entered his password.

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The Virgin Islands gaffe is the tip of the iceberg on Trump's ignorance.

Furthermore, I am not claiming Clinton is perfect in foreign or domestic policy. I just know she would not be the blithering buffoon that Donald Trump is.

I'll let you continue your 2016 circle jerk while President Trump signs no major legislation.

I'd rather have someone not know about the U.S. Virgin Islands than someone who apparently emboldened Putin.

How's Clinton's legislation?

The fact is it was always going to be hard-  the GOP is not for Trump. They were for Clinton. They never wanted to actually repeal Obamacare.

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Oh yeah and let's not forget Hillary lied about her health. She said New York City's blistering hot 76 degree weather caused her to get "heat exhaustion" until a video came out of her being thrown into a can like a side of beef surfaced.

The Clinton campaign was well prepared to go with the "heat exhaustion" lie until that video came out.

Just another one of Hillary's lies.

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BTW I love how people say Trump is a moron but apparently Russia's $100,000 on social media (which they can't even prove and most of the ads weren't even pro-Trump) was able to beat out Clinton's $1.2 billion, dozens of Super PACs, the "greatest data operation on the planet," her intense "record breaking" ground game, and the entire American media Establishment.

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Who the hell would vote for Hillary again?

Remember, the average Democrat voter thinks Russia's $100,000 on social media (which hasn't even been proven and most of the ads weren't even about Trump) was able to defeat her $1.2 billion machine with dozens of Super PACs, the media Establishment, her "record breaking" ground game, the "greatest data operation" on the planet, and America's greatest political minds.

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Who the hell would vote for Hillary again?

Remember, the average Democrat voter thinks Russia's $100,000 on social media (which hasn't even been proven and most of the ads weren't even about Trump) was able to defeat her $1.2 billion machine with dozens of Super PACs, the media Establishment, her "record breaking" ground game, the "greatest data operation" on the planet, and America's greatest political minds.

Some might think that, but a lot of those people don't even want Hillary to run again.

There's no way she wins the nomination in 2020.

They will vote for whoever they are told to vote for.

So if Clinton runs, and the Establishment backs her, the people WILL vote for her.

The only thing that can save us is if she pulls a Romney and decides not to run due to the backlash.